[JTUP]

Yes, I have mirror extensions. You sit further back, more upright with risers. It's working now that I've adjusted the mirrors.

Ah, that makes sense. thanks

 

[coneye]

After lots of messing with helmits , this that the other ,, I'm now convinced , just go get mirror extenders , and a givi airflow screen and then its magic ,, i got my extenders from a guy on this site , rickland rick think his name was

 

[JTUP]

After lots of messing with helmits , this that the other ,, I'm now convinced , just go get mirror extenders , and a givi airflow screen and then its magic ,, i got my extenders from a guy on this site , rickland rick think his name was

I just got my AirFlow yesterday and tested it, and it does work pretty well. I don't like looking through the top of the screen, but that's a tradeoff i'm ok with. I also have mirror extensions from AdventureTech... which are excellent quality. Pretty happy now. Just waiting for my 2" riser. I was able to find one on ebay for 2/3 the price.

 

[Webfors]

What bits are at risk of disappearing? I just got one of these to put on the lower portion of my Givi AirFlow for summer riding (with the upper entirely removed), to give a bit more control while still allowing plenty of air.

I would recommend sitting at a coffee table with it for an hour and taking it apart and putting it back together several times. It works great if you are familiar with how it works. I think the main issue is the plastic "bolt/pin" that threads through has two unique sides to it. Most people don't realize that. If you don't put the side with the deeper slot, that triangle locking mechanism won't seat properly into it and therefore won't lock properly, and then you'll find yourself with a failing screen on a twisty corner.

It is VERY reliable if you know exactly how the pins and lock mechanisms work, IMO. I can't comment on the longevity of it since I've only had it a year.

 

[kingofgix]

Installed a Givi Airflow on my newly acquired 2015 DL650. There is no buffeting, no noise, no wind. Best wind protection I have ever experienced on a motorcycle, and I have owned 24 and ridden many more.

 

[Webfors]

Installed a Givi Airflow on my newly acquired 2015 DL650. There is no buffeting, no noise, no wind. Best wind protection I have ever experienced on a motorcycle, and I have owned 24 and ridden many more.

The AF on my 2015 650 was perfect. Glad you got the same results!

 

[mel757]

Givi airflow with mirror extensions on 2015-650 works very well. I ride solo so its usually set so I can look over the windshield. The only complaint I have heard is the Givi creates drag at higher speeds which increases fuel burn.

 

[joeslabb]

Was riding and a very strong wind, moving semi’s around whipped up. The bike wheeled at 100km and I realized the Givi Airflow acted like a plane wing. I don’t think the top box help. Had to remove the top part of the screen to keep the front wheel on the road.

 

[raulduke52]

2014 dl650, insane buffeting. added the givi airflow and mirror extensions, then raised front forks 15mm. I'm 6 foot and it is better, almost no buffeting up to 60 mph, then it slowly starts again. riding at 75 mph (indicated)
is not the relaxing highway ride i expected after reading so many glowing reviews of the 650 strom. 60 mph, nice ride....past 65 mph not so much. 75 mph, miserable. the well meaning posts here saying they cruise 80mph plus for hours must be written by some sporty riders. in 6 months and i have spent north of a grand trying to make it work, new seat, bar set backs, exhaust, etc....and what have i got? a very nice bike that is kinda half dirt, half highway....but in reality, neither. sadly, i am not treking across patagonia 24/7 .
finding out what you want from a motorcycle is an expensive quest.

 

[speedjunkiesracing]

Only had VStrom for a week. Think it has a Givi windscreen.
There is zero air movement when riding.
I was getting hot because no air flow. Visor up whole time I rode.
It was pissing me off till I realized its a good thing.

 

[VSteeBoy]

2014 dl650, insane buffeting. added the givi airflow and mirror extensions, then raised front forks 15mm. I'm 6 foot and it is better, almost no buffeting up to 60 mph, then it slowly starts again. riding at 75 mph (indicated)
is not the relaxing highway ride i expected after reading so many glowing reviews of the 650 strom. 60 mph, nice ride....past 65 mph not so much. 75 mph, miserable. the well meaning posts here saying they cruise 80mph plus for hours must be written by some sporty riders. in 6 months and i have spent north of a grand trying to make it work, new seat, bar set backs, exhaust, etc....and what have i got? a very nice bike that is kinda half dirt, half highway....but in reality, neither. sadly, i am not treking across patagonia 24/7 .
finding out what you want from a motorcycle is an expensive quest.

The first step in sorting out the buffeting is determining the source. I can’t speak for everyone but my experience is that any windscreen is going to create a pocket of negative pressure downstream. If you’re in that pocket you’re in the eye of the storm and life is good. If that pocket is in front of you then the task is to get it to expand to include you. You can try moving the GIVI to one of the other two positions on the cowling - the highest position isn’t always the best. Once you’ve found the position that creates the least amount of buffeting you can try moving the airflow by adjusting the front auxiliary screen up or down. When you find the best spot for that with the least buffeting then you can try other things. Since you already have mirror extensions I’m going to move on to my next step in diagnosing to problem. Before I do, I will say some people have gotten varying levels of relief by swapping out the Suzuki mirrors for some more aerodynamic aftermarket versions. I can’t speak to those results because in my case I didn’t need to.
In trying to determine the source of buffeting, I went for a cruise on the freeway and moved my cupped hand around it front of me. By doing that at various speeds up to 100+mph I determined that almost all the buffeting wind was coming up from the front wheel/suspension area and around both sides of the fairing. Now, in the interest of full disclosure my bike is a 2014 V-Strom dl1000 Adventure with factory crash bars. On my bars I have mounted a pair of GIVI Bar Bags that are about 5 liters each. Also I am 6’2” and 235lbs. with a 35” inseam. I mention that because, while I think the PROCESS is as applicable to your bike as mine, the RESULTS may be quite different.
Having said that, my approach to dealing with this turbulent air coming up from the front was to fabricate a pair of wind deflectors which I attached to the fairing on either side of the tank using the existing screws. I fabricated them from Lexan sheet that I bought at Home Depot using a handheld jigsaw and a heat gun to create the bends. I’ll attach pictures below. I posted a pretty thorough pictorial on the V2 section of this forum a couple years back. You may be able to search around and find it, but I couldn’t begin to tell you how.
The results were impressive - only mild buffeting remained at speeds over 100+ and I could easily channel cooling air to my body just by lifting my elbows. At any rate, here are a few shots of the finished deflectors and details of how they’re mounted.

I hope this helps and you get your buffeting issues resolved. If you’re not able to craft your own you might try to find some online. I have heard of people buying the ones BMW makes for the GS and adapting them to the Strom. Good luck and good riding!

 

[Webfors]

The first step in sorting out the buffeting is determining the source. I can’t speak for everyone but my experience is that any windscreen is going to create a pocket of negative pressure downstream. If you’re in that pocket you’re in the eye of the storm and life is good. If that pocket is in front of you then the task is to get it to expand to include you. You can try moving the GIVI to one of the other two positions on the cowling - the highest position isn’t always the best. Once you’ve found the position that creates the least amount of buffeting you can try moving the airflow by adjusting the front auxiliary screen up or down. When you find the best spot for that with the least buffeting then you can try other things. Since you already have mirror extensions I’m going to move on to my next step in diagnosing to problem. Before I do, I will say some people have gotten varying levels of relief by swapping out the Suzuki mirrors for some more aerodynamic aftermarket versions. I can’t speak to those results because in my case I didn’t need to.
In trying to determine the source of buffeting, I went for a cruise on the freeway and moved my cupped hand around it front of me. By doing that at various speeds up to 100+mph I determined that almost all the buffeting wind was coming up from the front wheel/suspension area and around both sides of the fairing. Now, in the interest of full disclosure my bike is a 2014 V-Strom dl1000 Adventure with factory crash bars. On my bars I have mounted a pair of GIVI Bar Bags that are about 5 liters each. Also I am 6’2” and 235lbs. with a 35” inseam. I mention that because, while I think the PROCESS is as applicable to your bike as mine, the RESULTS may be quite different.
Having said that, my approach to dealing with this turbulent air coming up from the front was to fabricate a pair of wind deflectors which I attached to the fairing on either side of the tank using the existing screws. I fabricated them from Lexan sheet that I bought at Home Depot using a handheld jigsaw and a heat gun to create the bends. I’ll attach pictures below. I posted a pretty thorough pictorial on the V2 section of this forum a couple years back. You may be able to search around and find it, but I couldn’t begin to tell you how.
The results were impressive - only mild buffeting remained at speeds over 100+ and I could easily channel cooling air to my body just by lifting my elbows. At any rate, here are a few shots of the finished deflectors and details of how they’re mounted.
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I hope this helps and you get your buffeting issues resolved. If you’re not able to craft your own you might try to find some online. I have heard of people buying the ones BMW makes for the GS and adapting them to the Strom. Good luck and good riding!

What setting do you have that vstream mounted? I tried in the lowest mount with the standard hardware that came with the screen and it was awful. I had to get off the highway because I was going to vomit from the violent concussion style buffeting I was getting on my helmet.

I then mounted 10mm of spacers on the lower mount tilting it back and it was better. I’ll be heading out on the highway again this morning to test.

With the AirFlow it’s perfect up to 90km/h. Then the helmet slapping starts again.

 

[Webfors]

I went for a 300KM ride with the V-Stream, ditching the provided aluminum spacers, and added my own rubber spacers with a 5mm lift on the bottom mounts. I could see clearly over the screen on the full tilt forward setting on the DL1000 and it was the best experience at highway speed yet with fresh air running over my helmet.

The best thing about this windshield is the standup riding! Huge improvement in terms of clean airflow and body protection when standing.

@VSteeBoy you want to make another pair of those wicked side deflectors and ship them to me? 😁

I repurposed the generic GS eBay versions, but they don't cover nearly the same real estate yours do! They must make a big difference.

On my 2015 DL650 side deflectors and the Givi screen were critical. And now that I think of it I suspect that triple clamp aluminum accessory plate I mounted from Adventure Tech most likely really helped with controlling in the intake of air from the triple clamp. My 650 was literally perfect on the highway with that setup!!

 

[zig06]

The first step in sorting out the buffeting is determining the source. I can’t speak for everyone but my experience is that any windscreen is going to create a pocket of negative pressure downstream. If you’re in that pocket you’re in the eye of the storm and life is good. If that pocket is in front of you then the task is to get it to expand to include you. You can try moving the GIVI to one of the other two positions on the cowling - the highest position isn’t always the best. Once you’ve found the position that creates the least amount of buffeting you can try moving the airflow by adjusting the front auxiliary screen up or down. When you find the best spot for that with the least buffeting then you can try other things. Since you already have mirror extensions I’m going to move on to my next step in diagnosing to problem. Before I do, I will say some people have gotten varying levels of relief by swapping out the Suzuki mirrors for some more aerodynamic aftermarket versions. I can’t speak to those results because in my case I didn’t need to.
In trying to determine the source of buffeting, I went for a cruise on the freeway and moved my cupped hand around it front of me. By doing that at various speeds up to 100+mph I determined that almost all the buffeting wind was coming up from the front wheel/suspension area and around both sides of the fairing. Now, in the interest of full disclosure my bike is a 2014 V-Strom dl1000 Adventure with factory crash bars. On my bars I have mounted a pair of GIVI Bar Bags that are about 5 liters each. Also I am 6’2” and 235lbs. with a 35” inseam. I mention that because, while I think the PROCESS is as applicable to your bike as mine, the RESULTS may be quite different.
Having said that, my approach to dealing with this turbulent air coming up from the front was to fabricate a pair of wind deflectors which I attached to the fairing on either side of the tank using the existing screws. I fabricated them from Lexan sheet that I bought at Home Depot using a handheld jigsaw and a heat gun to create the bends. I’ll attach pictures below. I posted a pretty thorough pictorial on the V2 section of this forum a couple years back. You may be able to search around and find it, but I couldn’t begin to tell you how.
The results were impressive - only mild buffeting remained at speeds over 100+ and I could easily channel cooling air to my body just by lifting my elbows. At any rate, here are a few shots of the finished deflectors and details of how they’re mounted.
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I hope this helps and you get your buffeting issues resolved. If you’re not able to craft your own you might try to find some online. I have heard of people buying the ones BMW makes for the GS and adapting them to the Strom. Good luck and good riding!

Nice write up!, got one random question for you. Are your bar clamps stock? I've got a '12 Vstrom 650 and I'm looking at moving the bars back some and I like your setup.

 

[slicktromboner]

I found that the turbulence went away after getting rid of the stock "truck" mirrors by going to the Aprilia mirrors, but came back after putting on bar risers. Took off the risers and it's mostly smooth, even with the stock windshield.

 

[Yaruvenki]

Does angling the windshield more upright removes buffeting?

 

[zig06]

Does angling the windshield more upright removes buffeting?

Depends on rider height. Long story short the simple reason why there are so many solutions to this problem is because we are all different and have slightly different expectations on what is acceptable. Case in point, I'm running the accessory screen with a deflector all in the lowest position and have zero problem with buffeting.

A more upright screen will move the "dead air bubble" higher and closer to the rider, I think of this position as a possible solution for a taller rider with shorter arms. Personally I have tried a near vertical screen setting on another bike and while it deflected nice, the wind actually wrapped around me and pushed me in the back - strange and annoying. Ended up tipping the top of the screen back to something that closely matched the fork tube angle and that did it.

One trick to use when tuning the bubble is to reach a steady speed and then move your hand around and try to define where the bubble is and adjust from there. In any case, it will take several attempts to find your happy place!

 

[Yaruvenki]

Depends on rider height. Long story short the simple reason why there are so many solutions to this problem is because we are all different and have slightly different expectations on what is acceptable. Case in point, I'm running the accessory screen with a deflector all in the lowest position and have zero problem with buffeting.

A more upright screen will move the "dead air bubble" higher and closer to the rider, I think of this position as a possible solution for a taller rider with shorter arms. Personally I have tried a near vertical screen setting on another bike and while it deflected nice, the wind actually wrapped around me and pushed me in the back - strange and annoying. Ended up tipping the top of the screen back to something that closely matched the fork tube angle and that did it.

One trick to use when tuning the bubble is to reach a steady speed and then move your hand around and try to define where the bubble is and adjust from there. In any case, it will take several attempts to find your happy place!

Thank you. I guess it’s quite a battle to really fine tune. I’m currently using puig windshields and the “tuono” mirrors. And when i try to find the source of air from the windshield, it passes my head. The only places i can find are from the side fairings and handguards/mirror area. Will try removing handguard and mirror to see whether are those the cause

 

[4ever2wheels]

I just switched from the Givi Airflow to a MadStad and noted several points of interest. I also rode to the MadStad facility just 20 minutes from my house to place the order and later to pick it up. They are a great help in my non-standard purchase (I wanted a different shield).

BTW, I have had mirror extenders, Pro-taper ATV Hi bend bars and aerodynamic mirrors (compared to stock). I am 5' 10" with a 32" inseam riding on a Russell Day Long saddle.

1. The MadStad will fit over the Ravetech heads up GPS mount. This was a concern for me.

2. The cheapest and best no buffeting answer is to remove the screen entirely. Seriously! Noise level went through the roof and extra strain on your neck, but smooth air. Not a viable option for most of us, certainly not me.

3. The Givi Airflow was good, it moved a lot of air but left a vibration that I was not happy with. Plus I couldn't get air to my torso in this oppressive heat and humidity that is every Florida summer.

4. MadStad beats the Givi hands down. It went very good to excellent! Plus I asked for the Sport SD shield instead of the standard Adventure shield. This allows a little more air to get to my torso for cooling in the summer (8 months) plus I can lower the shield and give it a more vertical pitch to block air in the winter (2 months).

 

[flytrap]

Xscreen from MRA

Bought the Givi Airflow? but couldn't get it right so bought the MRA xsceen which uses the standard screen but gives you an adjustable upper portion.

Just did 9000 kms in the last couple of weeks and buffeting is gone and as long as there is no crosswind there the wind noise is well down. Unfortunately I went east to west and then return and the wind for the most part was somewhat northerly and it was this crosswind that was causing the wind noise by getting up into my helmet from the side.

In the early morning with only light winds the wind noise was not a problem and I had no buffeting except when following big road trains. You can see the screen on the bike in the photos.

I'm 6 feet and the MRA xscreen worked perfectly on the stock screen of my 2020 650 xt adventure.