[dart451]

Put on my new Givi Airflow windscreen today...not quite the anti-buffeting I was hoping for! However, I took a ride with only a ball cap on and it did not blow off at 110 mph! Yes, I know...not wise to go so fast without a helmet but I'm 72 and I've had a full life...lmao! I adjusted it up and down, didn't seem make any difference where I put it. Seems like I get a lot of air around the left and right side of the fairing...wonder what I can do about that?

 

[JTUP]

Seems like I get a lot of air around the left and right side of the fairing...wonder what I can do about that?

Search for "air deflectors". Some people have posted on here on how to make homemade ones to reduce this air flow.

I had the same experience with the Givi. i've just come to accept that i'm going to have some buffeting on my helmet. But, it is way better than the stock windscreen.

 

[V-Tom]

I added the side deflectors that GIVI sells (this was for my DKL1050 though) and they completely quieted things down. Don't know if they have them for the 2012+ DL650.

..Tom

 

[marnolddrummin1]

So if this is in any way inappropriate or misplaced please let me know and I'll delete or move it elsewhere.

Problem: I have a (left fwiw) ear condition that requires the QUIETEST ride I can get out of the 650 Wee. I have a newish RF-1200 Shoei and ride with earplugs but after even 100 miles at 60-65 mph (on a 2009 Honda DN-01 with worthless Givi windshield...try not to laugh!) it takes a few or three days for the ear to become more normally functioning because of wind noise.

So: I'm ready to pull the trigger on a low mileage 2016 Wee but am concerned there's no way to make it a very quiet ride. Have read numerous posts on different threads here before posting this but am hoping a few of you can:
A) Confirm the sound of silence is possible with the right mods.
B) Can prescribe the bits and pieces I'll need to make that reality.

I'm 5'10, 32 inch inseam

Many thanks in advance.

 

[richlandrick]

Sorry, nope.

You can reduce wind noise by changing things on the bike, but not eliminate it. Mirror extenders and a windscreen of proper height with an adjustable lip will help. But it sounds like you need noise cancellation like private pilots use.

 

[s15274n]

Mirror extenders helped me the most, but hard to eliminate wind entirely.

 

[swisstrom]

The first step in sorting out the buffeting is determining the source. I can’t speak for everyone but my experience is that any windscreen is going to create a pocket of negative pressure downstream. If you’re in that pocket you’re in the eye of the storm and life is good. If that pocket is in front of you then the task is to get it to expand to include you. You can try moving the GIVI to one of the other two positions on the cowling - the highest position isn’t always the best. Once you’ve found the position that creates the least amount of buffeting you can try moving the airflow by adjusting the front auxiliary screen up or down. When you find the best spot for that with the least buffeting then you can try other things. Since you already have mirror extensions I’m going to move on to my next step in diagnosing to problem. Before I do, I will say some people have gotten varying levels of relief by swapping out the Suzuki mirrors for some more aerodynamic aftermarket versions. I can’t speak to those results because in my case I didn’t need to.
In trying to determine the source of buffeting, I went for a cruise on the freeway and moved my cupped hand around it front of me. By doing that at various speeds up to 100+mph I determined that almost all the buffeting wind was coming up from the front wheel/suspension area and around both sides of the fairing. Now, in the interest of full disclosure my bike is a 2014 V-Strom dl1000 Adventure with factory crash bars. On my bars I have mounted a pair of GIVI Bar Bags that are about 5 liters each. Also I am 6’2” and 235lbs. with a 35” inseam. I mention that because, while I think the PROCESS is as applicable to your bike as mine, the RESULTS may be quite different.
Having said that, my approach to dealing with this turbulent air coming up from the front was to fabricate a pair of wind deflectors which I attached to the fairing on either side of the tank using the existing screws. I fabricated them from Lexan sheet that I bought at Home Depot using a handheld jigsaw and a heat gun to create the bends. I’ll attach pictures below. I posted a pretty thorough pictorial on the V2 section of this forum a couple years back. You may be able to search around and find it, but I couldn’t begin to tell you how.
The results were impressive - only mild buffeting remained at speeds over 100+ and I could easily channel cooling air to my body just by lifting my elbows. At any rate, here are a few shots of the finished deflectors and details of how they’re mounted.
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I hope this helps and you get your buffeting issues resolved. If you’re not able to craft your own you might try to find some online. I have heard of people buying the ones BMW makes for the GS and adapting them to the Strom. Good luck and good riding!

I agree with everything said above. I too was a bit disappointed after fitting a Givi airflow having res rave reports of silence and no buffering. I found above 100kph I got a tiring buffeting from the airflow just hitting the top of my head. Moving the screen up had no effect and it was probably best in lowest position which creates the maximum up flow of air between the two screens. I also came to the conclusion that buffeting was being caused in part from airflow coming up from around the forks. If I put my arm across at the front of the tank the buffeting would disappear. Also, when my tank top bag was fitted I had less buffeting. So, I made some foam blockers (see photo) which worked to some extent. However, I have recently just moved the screen up to the highest position (from middle) and for me at 5’8” this has really helped and the airflow now misses my head completely. BTW the trick of threading hire through the grommets and then pushing them through so they fall down through the fairing to the ground saves hours of time and frustration in changing the screen position. As said above, we are all so different in size and shape that there are lots of different solution. Also, different people have different tolerances. I use earplugs and for me 120kph is pretty silent.

 

[SNB Tools]

A little update from my previous post. The Madstad system arrived in short order and installation was very easy. I was finally able to get a short test ride in this week and begin adjustments. The Madstad out of adjustment was performing way better than the MRA X-screen. I made a few small adjustments and the airflow/buffeting issue is nearly gone. Air rolls over my head now in the mid position and hardly any buffeting. What I do have is either coming off of the mirrors or from the tunnel. I now can hear the road noise of the front end and not the wind hammering my helmet. I will try the larger spoiler on the x-screen just for test purposes if the mfg ever grants a ship date for me and see how it does. The madstad is not as pretty as the x-screen but a this point is a much better performer.

 

[coloradoklr]

2013 DL650 just ordered the Givi air flow. I am 6.0 tall with a seat concepts tall seat. Not sure if I should mount the lower half of the windshield in the lower, middle or high hole on the bike.
any suggestions.
Thanks

 

[V-Tom]

2013 DL650 just ordered the Givi air flow. I am 6.0 tall with a seat concepts tall seat. Not sure if I should mount the lower half of the windshield in the lower, middle or high hole on the bike.
any suggestions.
Thanks

Experiment with all three holes. It isn't going to be exactly the same for different riders so you need to try and see what works best for you. (I'd start at the bottom though.)

..Tom

 

[Landsurfer74]

I’ve just obtained a spare screen from a forum member and the plan is to trim it down to the highest mounting point (about half size) and see how that performs. I had the lowest possible screen fitted to my Himalayan and the buffet disappeared completely.
I’ll let you know how it works.

 

[Landsurfer74]

I’ve just obtained a spare screen from a forum member and the plan is to trim it down to the highest mounting point (about half size) and see how that performs. I had the lowest possible screen fitted to my Himalayan and the buffet disappeared completely.
I’ll let you know how it works.

Screen received, thanks all at v-strom.co.uk .... I should get it cut down and edges polished in the next week ......
On a tangent ... what are the experiences of Open Face helmet wearers with the airflow ...?

 

[kb7tgr]

I have seed reference to "PWD" several times while reading this thread. I cannot figure out what it stands for can someone help me out thanx

 

[JTUP]

I didn't know but did a search of PWD in all posts and found this:

PWD = Pat Walsh Designs

 

[Brickmouse13]

Experiment with all three holes. It isn't going to be exactly the same for different riders so you need to try and see what works best for you. (I'd start at the bottom though.)

..Tom

Reminds me of the talk my dad had with me about the birds and the bees.

 

[Landsurfer74]

So ..Before cutting the screen down i found a Powerbronze short screen on the interweb ..... on first ride, a dash along the local motorway the buffet seemed to have disappeared.
Today i want for a longer ride, through the Peak District. Not only no buffet but a much quieter and pleasant riding experience .... fantastic bit of kit...

 

[srfntheweb]

Just wanted to add another data point to this thread. I went with a Givi Air Flow, and I'm very happy with it. So much better that the factory screen.

 

[foglght]

So, two things here:

1. I made some winglets for the fairing and it did cut down on a lot of the air turbulence. I am going to get some made out of aluminum. If they work out I may offer some to the community if there is interest.

2. What year Tuono mirrors are people using on the 2012-2016 stroms? When I looked them up there seem to be 3 different mirrors for that cycle. I pulled off one mirror and it cut down on the turbulence even more. I figure if I can get the better mirrors I'll be good on mods for the time being.

 

[john.schulz.56]

Just one more positive vote for the Givi Air Flow. I have used it for over two years, both while living in Alabama and now in San Diego. For me, it has been the perfect solution. I routinely forget to pull down my visor on my full-face helmet, and only pull it down on the freeway for safety. Maybe I'm just the right height or something (5' 10") but it works great for me.
Also, I wouldn't say there is no wind that gets through but for me, the amount that does get through is just right and zero buffeting, even at California freeway speeds. I have a 2013 650.
Just wanted to post this because this thread is the reason I got the Givi in the first place.

 

[XJV]

I read through this a few years back. I found some solutions, implemented them, and I have no buffeting at all unless there is a big truck, semi, or gusting crosswind. Until maybe 85+ mph when a little shows up. But not till around 95 do I get any of notice on my own drive without those conditions.

I made some plexiglass wings, changed the mirrors, got a givi windscreen and use it at that EXACT setting. Top hole mounts, a spacer in the bottom screws. Windscreen height is about 7/8” from aligning the windscreen rails to the clamps at max height. I am 5’10”. It has lowered pegs and a low seat (because I ride 2up often and the extra visibility is nice for them), but I still don’t get buffering on the stock seat. Except take maybe a few mph off. Here’s a photo so you can see what I did.
I use both an XD3 aria helmet with the visor, and aria standard helmet. It doesn’t matter which I wear.