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VSYSTO, No screen motorcycle dash cam.

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Wife bought me camera for Father's Day as I enjoyed having front/rear on my last bike. Last one was Thinkware dash cam intended for car, I had it mounted to inside of windscreen and it lasted 3 seasons before quitting (that model not intended for outdoor, not bashing Thinkware at all).
Video below is first test ride of VSYSTO dash cam - front and rear cameras, main module under seat, controlled by WIFI connection to iPhone.. I preferred the no screen version as I found myself distracted watching the monitor instead of the road while riding.. NOT what I wanted to do. LOL.

if anyone has advice on options for uploading better video to YouTube I'm all ears (the video looks much clearer on computer than on Youtube).

 
Discussion starter · #5 ·
That looks pretty good!

Do you have a link to the specific model you bought, and any thoughts on how hard install was?

Does the camera have sound/mic? (prob wouldn't work anyway with wind noise)

And the big question for us computer illiterate types - how hard is it to manage the files and see them - do you upload to your phone or laptop via a cable, or wifi? '

Thanks for posting this have been wanting to put a similar setup on my bikes for awhile, just haven't gotten around to it yet!
I believe your questions were answered by Stickerbush. I actually didn't know i could do still photos so thanks Stickerbush, I'll have to keep playing!!... Pretty simple install, instructions are fairly clear. All of the wires coming out of the controller are color coded to match the wire for 'camera, power, GPS (option), etc.' and there are extensions included for both cameras. I used one extension for front camera, did not need for rear. CONNECTING the wires is easy and there is a test wire with the system that you can plug into a USB socket and test both cameras on the bench (I did this before install). I will add though that I have previously zip tied a 1/2" poly pipe (irrigation pipe) to the top of the frame and under the gas tank that runs from the battery area to the front. So for me running a wire is as simple as pushing it through the pipe.

I've only connected to the camera through the app on my Iphone and it worked fine. Power camera on, connect phone via WIFI to the camera SSID and view the vids. Once you find the vid you like, just hit download and it's in your photos (Apple). It is a mini-SD card in the controller that you can simply remove and put in your computer if you want to go that route.

The ONE thing that I do miss from my Car-DashCam is when you hit the button on the remote it just saves/renames the current video file (1-2-3-5-10 min) and you don't really know where you are in that time (beginning, end, middle?). What i liked about the Thinkware dashcam was if I hit the record button on the thinkware it would store the previous 10 secs + 20 seconds after the push. That was nice if you had a "wow, that was cool" moment then you could record what just happened instead of recording what was going to happen. Not sure how that works with other systems but Google research indicates most of the motorcycle dashcams are the same as this one.
 
Discussion starter · #6 ·
Was it this one?

Yep, kinda. There are actually Two different versions on that Amazon page with different price.... I bought the slightly more expensive one that has the motorcycle on it and the little 'target' dot. I honestly am not sure what the difference is between the two but based on the description it looks like the one with the motorcycle has "FULL HD" on it and the other one doesn't????
don't take my word for it though.
 
Discussion starter · #7 ·
I purchased one of these a year ago and am happy with it, does what I wanted it to do. Here's a link to the one I got, I believe it's the same one that the OP has.

It has a mic and records sound. Wind noise varies, mostly you just hear the engine.

It's designed to be connected to a switched power source and it starts recording when the bike is turned on. One thing I really like is that it has a wired remote with a button that takes a still photograph. I use this quite a bit.

You can access recordings (stills and videos) either with a phone app or by removing the microSD card and connecting it to a laptop or tablet. Transfers via the phone app are quite slow.

If I recall correctly, I had to get a firmware update from the vendor to get the videos in a format that Apple devices liked.

I wish the image quality was better than 1080P.
I think i must have the latest firmware as I didn't have to do anything for my apple devices. I uploaded the test video from the App on my Iphone to 'Photos' and then viewed it on my Macbook, edited in Imovie to add text/pics and submitted to Youtube.

How do you choose between Still pictures or Videos? The instructions indicate the two remote control buttons both do the same thing but I honestly installed, tested and parked so I am still learning.
 
Discussion starter · #8 ·
Also, as an FYI - My video did have sound enabled however I removed the sound when uploading as it was more scratchy than engine.. I don't know where the sound comes from, but I assume it is from the controller which is currently just laying under the seat so it probably was sliding/jostling around.

Once I'm done testing, i will mount properly inside this area and tidy up the wires. The unit did come with a few pieces of 3M double sided tape for this purpose.

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Discussion starter · #10 ·
I've got the same camera and have had it on for about 6 months now. I got it more for evidence than to record rides. I don't mess with it much but I do check it once in a while to make sure it's still working. As for ease of use, I'm not a computer guy and like things simple and I didn't have any issues installing. Hooked it into my Healtech, ran the wires, mounted the cameras and got it synced with my phone with no problems. Where did you mount both of yours?
Front stuck on with their mount and 3M as per instructions and routed the wires under windsheld/behind headlights.
Remote Control currently 3M to the side cowling directly below the left handlebar when straight (not in pic).
Rear I didn't use their mount, but I did use their camera clamp that has a hole in it so I drilled a hole under the frame and used a self tapping screw to hold the camera clamp.
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Discussion starter · #21 ·
Just picked one up, delivered today. Reading the instructions I am not quite sure the 2 options for power make the most sense to me. would it not work well to just hook it up to a switched circuit on my Eastern Beaver 8 power distribution block?
mine was red+/black- directly to battery and yellow to ignition. That way, the unit can shut down gently. I was in support for an industry that sold small computer devices in vehicles and can tell you the gentle shut down wiring is important or eventually the brains get scrambled
 
Discussion starter · #22 ·
Something I just remembered about my install a year ago...there was an annoying (to me anyway) audio tone produced whenever the dash cam was turned on. I fixed it by opening it up and cutting a wire or lead, unfortunately I did not document it.
funny, I was going to ask about disabling the Chirp…. It is annoying
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
Sabrecanuck, thanks for the explanation. When I watched the video it appeared that they were fishing around for a circuit that was switched to the ignition for the yellow and I assumed the purpose was that the power unit that originated the yellow was a simple relay that was being tripped. Is that not the case?
I believe the unit gets its main power from the red/black, the yellow is simply recognizing ignition on. I need to add a fuse to the red wire yet.
 
Discussion starter · #31 ·
That's right, aka "sense" wire.

I'm suprised VSysto did not include an inline fuse on the power wire. My Innovv K2 power supply had one. Slightly cheaper not to, I guess.
Out of curiosity, does the Innov K2 only record in configurable # minute segments and when you hit the “record” button does it just rename that #min file, or does it record a seperate snapshot?
my Thinkware dash cams will record previous 10 secs and post 30 secondswhen I hit the record button and puts that video ina separate MANUAL folder on the SD card. I like the feature but it’s not on the VSYSTO, too soon to know for sure if I’m gonna miss it.
 
Discussion starter · #35 ·
So for those of you who have been using this, is there a good reason to set up the remote controller? Trying to avoid adding anything else to the installation on my bike. Also, When I am on long rides I usually have a GoPro running on loop and capture 5-minute segments with that so my phone WiFi has to be locked into that wireless signal, so I assume the phone does not have to be connected to this for it to function. It is actually the G-Force Capture that makes me interested it it.

Just trying to make sure if this is what I want before I install. Thanks.
I think it's personal preference honestly, I wanted the remote so i could easily capture scenery, wildlife, ying-yangs, and hopefully the odd "whoa, can't believe I made it through there" moments. Funny, I disabled and haven't played with the G-force option as my previous camera had too many false-alarms however, this one does have a sensitivity setting 1-10 for G-force. You only have to connect WIFI to camera system for settings adjustments and/or downloading vids if you wish, . Vids over WIFI is slow but I like that I can save them directly from app to my Iphone Pictures (aka cloud). It's usually faster to remove the mini-SD card from camera to copy vids on computer but keep that in mind while installing/mounting the camera controller (miniSD card in slot on side).

Another personal preference but I found myself getting distracted with too many screens when I had the GoPro on bike and watching the Garmin Montana screen routing me so I returned the Hero10 and went with this screen-less system for the bike. I still have a Hero3 that I rarely use LOL.
 
Discussion starter · #40 ·
The one I received has only 3 settings for the G-Force, but there is no indication which is the most sensitive. Any thoughts?
i stand corrected, mine only has 5 settings - Off-0-1-2-3 sensitivity. I had mine set to 0 and do not see any triggered events, so I would say '3' is the most sensitive.
 
Discussion starter · #41 ·
Got my no-screen model today. The instruction relate to the screen model and it was confusing but I think it's working. I'll pull the card and see what files are on it.
Seems well made but I'm not sure about proprietary connectors but once installed I shouldn't have to touch them.
It's late and I'll try in the morning.

EDIT: Tested the card this morning and it did record F/R.
Guess I'll have to wade through the micro-print user manual to operate it correctly with the remote.
Agreed, the instructions are a Google-Translate version of English but they did include instructions further down related to the non-screen version and also a wire to bench test the cameras prior to install. As far as I can tell, both buttons on the remote simply rename the current # minute video with the word KEY on it. But it sounds like you got it figured out.
 
Discussion starter · #44 ·
Thanks. It works and records F/R cameras.
Started wiring it in and routing the wires. Not to complecated... not like putting Christmas toys together on Christmas eve where it says in bold words... "Any 10 Year Old Can Do It". I can tell ya, three grown men and a bottle of Jack couldn't.
Yellow wire gotta be the sense wire and triggers a switch or relay to activate the cameras. Routing the camera wires and learning how to get behind the plastic. Learning curve!

Looking forward to seeing how it works. I really like the hands off approach. I didn't at first but now I do. Nothing to look at and nothing to touch.

Thanks
Yep, Red wire to constant Positive, Black wire to Ground, Yellow wire to switched/ignition source. The yellow wire just basically tells the system to wake up/shut down. Best not to wire RED to switched source as this is a computer and needs to turn itself off gently.
 
Discussion starter · #47 · (Edited)
Are you connected to the camera’s network?
Once connected, the live view is the DEVICE buttton on the left. Will default to forward camera but you can switch to rear camera in the top right.
 
Discussion starter · #49 · (Edited)
I made a quick crappy video showing the app and connection on my iPhone. I don’t know how it works on android, but the first few seconds of the video show what happens when app is not connected to camera. If you open app and button says CONNECT you aren’t connected to camera. If it says PREVIEW then you are connected and should be able to use app.
Unless you rename the SSID (camera wifi) by default it will be MotoDV_xxx and the password for that wifi connection is 1234567890

 
Discussion starter · #55 ·
Question: Do I understand correctly that the default for the unit is when the bike is on it boots up and starts automatically looping?
Correct. As long as you wire it properly. Black/red to constant power (battery) and yellow wire senses bike On (tie into switched source somewhere).
Also to note, my unit did not come with a miniSD card that is required.