I've often thought a turnbuckle or chain binder could be modified to make quick, secure tiedowns. I don't often need to transport a moto so haven't tried making one.

 

Ive used turn buckles on a different (DR650) bike before. It worked well. Same concept as Moto Cinch. Fiddling with adjusting the turn buckles was a hassle. I really like the idea of the added convience of Moto Cinch though.

Regardless of what device is used, my concern is if the pegs and mounts on the bike are strong enough.

 

Is anyone in this group using Moto Cinch or Bike Binders type tie downs? They slip over foot pegs, and tie down to floor. I am comfortable with the strength of the tie down itself, but I dont know if the foot peg and mount on the bike is up to the task.

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I am considering using them on my 800 as strapless systems work so much better in my toyhauler. Ive used T-Trex before, (they worked well), but they are not compatible with the 800 due to the 800s lug for swingarm spools being too small (6mm) vs the 8mm needed.

Thanks in advance

Mike

I think the foot pegs are probably many times stronger than the 2 small machine screws that are used to bolt the adapter to the floor are. To be fair I don't think you need a metric shit ton of force to be able to hold the bike securely.

While this is a very excessively engineered product, I'd be more inclined to bolt a couple of D-rings fore and aft of the bike to the floor and use $8 worth of ratchet straps. If I wane to go all out I'd buy a HF wheel chock and use that to hold the bike while I applied the ratchet straps.

 

I would use their "etrack" version , maybe 5' in length, several bolts, with large backing plates underneath, as well as being sure it ties into a frame member on the trailer.

Ive set up 5 toyhaulers over the years and have used tie downs for years as you described. My goal is strapless. Way more convienent.

Ive towed over 35,000+ miles in the last 3 years (we travel full time with our toyhauler and bike) using The T-Rex strapless system. Love it. But...it does not work on the 800.

 

I use the "Bike Grab" from the people that make the EazyRizer bike lift
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Check out the lighter duty chain binder at e-trailer.com. Cheap enough to buy a few and experiment.

 

Ive considered those amd may try. However if using those requires it to be hooked to the footpeg, my primary question remains...are the foot pegs and mounts up to it. Perhaps with those, i could hook to a frame rail above peg however.

 

I'd trust the foot pegs. Calculate the shock load on them with a 250 lb rider landing a small jump. Static load on them in transport mode will be negligible.

 

I transported my dirt bikes by their foot pegs for many years without an issue.

The problems I see, with the pegs being low and close together there is a lot of leverage as the bike swings from side to side on such a heavy machine.

I don't know about the 800 I replaced the peg brackets on my 1000 with the brackets from a 650, the 650 brackets are steel and much stronger than the cast 1000 brackets.

The cast brackets loose their strength were the pivot pin goes through.

 

I researched all of these options before hauling my 800 and a KLR out to Idaho this year, I think the pegs would most likely be one of the strongest anchor points on the bike. I was too cheap to buy the binderz or moto cinch or I probably would have used them. In the end we ended up using E-Track with two sets of the Aerofast straps I have always used. I put the front straps around the triple clamps and the rear straps through the passenger foot peg perches. The bike was solid for the whole trip out, only issue I had was a broken e-track strap (had the mounts that go into etrack on the back, have a short yellow strap and then a metal ring on the rear) on the way back on the rear but the bike still didnt budge. I would recommend using etrack mounts that go direct from the track to a metal ring with no strap inbetween.

 

The good ones are a square bar with a pivot strong enough to keep the bike from moving front to back. Those binders on the pegs would need wheel chocks that prevent the front wheel from turning.

 

Thanks everyone for the input.

I did buy the Moto Cinch. Ive now hauled the bike about 450 miles. They seem to be extremely well built and easy to use. The first 2 miles I hauled it was down a rather rough, hilly, off camper 2 track (yes, I took my toy hauler down it...likely should not have!). Zero issues... Front wheel was in a wheel chock.

Though as I really didnt get tons of feed back on the strength of the peg mounts and pegs, I did run a tie down on each side from frame rail under seat to the etrack the Moto Cinch was cinnected to. Snugged just slightly to ease the load on the Moto Cinch.

Ironically, I concluded that the tie downs alone would have worked themselves....but... I do like the added piece of mind using them with the Moto Cinch for now. I will watch how it goes, and may later eliminate the straps.


Ill be loading the bike again in about a week, I will snap some pics then and post them here.

FWIW, I installed the 5' Etrack (I wanted some added flexibilty in loading) using 14 bolts through the 3/4" floor such 6 went through steel frame members (about 3/4" thick) that are part of the trailer frame. I used a 2nd piece of Etrack underneath as a backing plate, with 3/4" thick wood sandwiched between the etrack and bottom of trailer floor, placed in between the frame pieces I noted. There is no way in hell that will pull through. Ive done similar on other trailers. Likely overkill. But its solid!

The wheel chock is held down with two eye bolts that thread into a nearly flush "reciever" that goes through the floor and into a different frame member. Ive used that set up for about 35,000 miles hauling various bikes.

I have zero reservations hauling like this.

One big dissapointment with Moto Cinch. Horrible communication. It took an email voicemails and text messages (the out going message suggests texting.) to get a response, but only after waiting a few days. As I was on a tight timeline, I had already took a chance and placed my order without a response to my questions. Fortunately, all was good so far. Leaves me concerned should I have warranty issues .

Again, the product itself seems very well built and engineered. I am not impressed with customer service.

Pics coming soon...

Mike

 

It would be very easy to mount a camera and get video of the bike while travelling, this may ease any concerns you have.