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Shunt Vs Series Rectifier/Regulator

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#1 ·
This post pertains to the stock voltage regulator and the series regulators that the aftermarket provides. My understanding of electrical systems isn't fantastic but I have some basic understanding.

Right now my bike, which is electrically stock except for a power commander and lithium ion battery, makes great voltage at idle while hot (14.7V at battery). There are no problems with anything electrical on the bike that I know of, but that number does seem a bit high to me. Please chime in if you have thoughts on this part. When bike was purchased seller said they had the stator replaced, I'm assuming a factory one but I don't really know. The voltage stayed steady through different rpms.

I want to switch my headlamps out for LED for brightness, but became concerned as shunt regulators/rectifiers return any unused amperage as heat to the system. With my system seemingly working well right now, I was concerned that switching to LED lamps might have an adverse effect maybe even potentially cooking the stator.

Is this a legitimate concern? In the future I plan on installing a voltage guage, phone charger, and heated grips (which will seldom be used). None of these draws a lot of current, so that wouldn't really 'help' if I was trying to better match the factory electrical draw.

I'm not sure if it's easy/worth it to change to a series rectifier/regulator, but my understanding is that they only provide the amperage that the system requires. Is that correct, and is it worth doing? Easy?
 
#2 ·
There's a tradeoff. The stator tries to behave as a constant power source. With a shunt regulator excess power turns up as current in the windings, series regulator, voltage across the windings. That is generally easier to live with but not always as it can cause arcing if the insulation is marginal. Since the stator is soaked in oil, generally heat isn't a problem - the problem with these was AFAIK mechanical stress caused by the magnetic fields making the insulation wear through to ground, really nothing to do with shunt or series regulators.

Install a voltmeter, there's a pigtail under the front faring that's often used for a 12v power outlet and you can get voltmeters that plug into that. If the voltage doesn't get above 14.7 leave well alone. If it does check the battery grounds (BOTH ends, battery and chassis end) and if those are O.K. you need a new regulator anyway.

I have LED headlights on my 650 with a shunt regulator and on my 1000 with a series regulator, neither are causing problems.
 
#3 ·
If I may ask, why would voltage at that described accessory plug be higher than what the battery reads? It would be lower almost certainly, right?

Forgive me, just trying to understand. A less than good ground (battery/chassis etc) could cause measured voltage to read higher? Checking the grounds is always a good idea in general though, I will do that
 
#4 ·
Bad grounds cause inaccurate voltage readings, bad grounds at things like rectifiers cause high battery voltages. The assumption is that ground is ground is ground, if that's untrue then nothing makes sense. Hence check the cables first.

And you are almost correct, an accessory plug should read lower except - electronics and noise and sometimes they read higher. That's not why you need a meter on the bike, it's so you can check what the voltage is doing while riding. It's really hard to do that with the seat off and a meter across the batteries - you are technically right - but it's no use at all :). If the voltage doesn't rise above 14.7 when riding likely everything is O.K., if not there's a problem somewhere. The connector out of the rectifier has been know to have dodgy contacts for example.
 
#5 · (Edited)
I would not switch out the headlights to led. You are going to put more strain on the system. If your stator is truly healthy switch to a series R/R and then switch you bulbs to led if you want. I just switched mine to a series R/R as a lot have. So did Suzuki on the later models. As to is it easy it can be. roadstercycle.com has a super kit that is as plug and play as you're going to get. Check out post 41 in the linked thread.