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Making my own adjustable Givi Monokey top case adapter

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#1 · (Edited)
On my 2007 DL1000, I had an Adventure Motostuff top case adapter for the Kappa K48 top case. It was really great - it allowed movement of the case forward and back to suit the passenger:


Unfortunately, this simply doesn't exist for the 2017+ DL650, not that I can find at least. If you want to put a Monokey style top case on, it's the Givi SRA3112, and that's it.

The SRA3112 does not have any adjustability, you get what you get in terms of location of the top case relative to the seat. That's been a problem for me & my SO. We tried both of us on my 2019 DL650XT, and it was Not Good. She was pushed into me, or else I had to scoot so far forward on the seat that I wasn't comfortable. She doesn't have her endorsement yet, so I'm always driving, she's always the pillion.

I have the passenger backrest on the front of my K48 top case. While I'm sure I could get her a couple of inches of room by taking it off, that's not an option, she's too used to the comfort. I can't fault her there, it's pretty nice to have that support.

So, it looks like I'll have to make my own adapter. An adapter for the adapter, in fact.

About to order an aluminum sheet. I measured the SRA3112, and can post a template if anyone's interested.

The idea is that I'll remove the Givi Monokey hardware (2 lugs + snap-on wedge) from the SRA3112 plate, then attach them to the second aluminum plate. Finally, attach this second plate to the SRA3112, only offset, using the holes already in it for the Monokey hardware. End effect: scoot the top case back by something like 2 to 4". Will document my efforts here as I make progress & time allows.

I don't have metal-bending tools, a drill press, etc., or this would be a fairly simple project. I'm choosing aluminum plate, because it's much lighter and much easier to work with than plate steel, though more expensive.

I think 1/8" thick sheet should be strong enough. If you look at the Adventure Motostuff page, you'll note that their Monokey v3.0 adapter is made from 1/8" aluminum. They're plenty strong, had one on my 2007 DL1000 up until the crash last year. I'll use the same aluminum alloy they do - 6061.

One problem might be the clearance needed for screw heads between top of my adapter plate, & bottom of top case. There is about a 1/8" gap there already. Might be enough. Better be or I'll have to get creative. I don't think 1/8" sheet is thick enough to do countersunk screws.
 
#34 ·
For future work when using hand drill. Start with a centering bit. Drill countersink first with standard bit, drill through hole second .
 
#35 ·
Huh? Standard bit doesn't have the right tip angle to do a countersink. The cobalt ones I bought have a 135° tip angle for instance. Older plain steel ones are about the same.

Supposedly the type of countersink bit where it's got both the twisty piece to drill the hole, and the countersink part farther up the shaft, works better for hand drilling. Oh well, lesson learned. I don't think I'll replace this "prototype" just so the countersinks are prettier though. Too much work, unless I get a drill press in the meantime.

Pitchers to follow. Going on a test ride in a minute.
 
#36 ·
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Plate mounted in place of the SRA3112 adapter.

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Side view. Scoots the top case back 3" compared to original setup.

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Fit is snug. Doesn't rattle when riding. No sign plate flexed during the test ride, which it shouldn't since I have very little in the top case while riding. It only holds significant weight (helmets) when parked.

Success so far. I'd like to round off the corners more, but that can wait until I have a way to do it neatly.
 
#37 ·
There are a variety of bit tip angles available, but when I countersink in steel/aluminum I am not using tapered screws - I use flat backs.
 
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#38 ·
Gotcha. I went with countersinks with this, mostly so I could easily re-use the existing hardware (so-called flat head metric screws, having a tapered/conical head profile). Seemed wise to stick with

It's likely there would have been enough plate thickness to do a recess for a button head screw. Something to consider if I wanted to do another one of these. Or if anyone wants to copy my design, which is OK by me.

The hardest part of the whole project - besides drilling the countersinks - was locating holes accurately. Somehow the holes for the Monokey hardware (2 mushrooms and wedge) ended up offset about 1/8" to one side. I can only tell when looking at the plate from below, with the top case sitting on it.

I'd still like to chop off the plate's corners. I did round off the corners a bit using a hand file. Ditto for the edges of the plate. All were fairly sharp at first, with one having a small flange left over from the cutting process.
 
#39 ·
We did a test ride with the new top case position. Much much better. We could actually stand to be on the bike long enough to find other problems.

She was much more comfortable except that her knees were too bent. It seems as if Suzuki moved the passenger footpegs up and back vs my old Vee. Not sure if there's any way to fix that.

Suspension was a bit overloaded with two of us. However it wasn't nearly as bad as the stock suspension on my old Vee.

I don't think I'll spend a couple thousand bucks trying to make the DL650 good for 2 up, mainly with suspension upgrades. I think instead I'll follow through with the idea of swapping to a Yamaha FJR 1300. We're going to go do a test sit on one this afternoon. Nobody is going to let us do a 2-up test drive, which is understandable, but just sitting on one should help.
 
#40 ·
Most countersunk bolts use a 45 degree head angle. Countersinks are available in a variety of head angles, but they all need to be used at low rpm to get a smooth finish.

The DL650 can be an excellent two-up sport touring machine with minor modification. Just stiffer springs front and rear, with rear rebound run completely full and then back off a 1/4 turn and fork brace made a hug difference for us. I combination transformed the bike.

Of course the seat becomes limiting, but a seat concepts seat kit will fix that.