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post #1 of 46 Old 01-29-2019, 08:53 PM Thread Starter
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Gasoline without ethanol

Is better to use gasoline without ethanol for a 2005 v Strom 1000?
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Suzuki allows up to 10% or e10 in all models. I use e10 because it keeps my tank dryer and cleaner. If I'm going to store the bike for more than two weeks, I use e10 with stabilizer. If more than a month, e0. If more than three months, e0 with fuel stabilizer. I never store a less than full tank.


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Gasoline without ethanol is always better.

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For my V2, I run the E10 because it's convenient to get and I don't go much over a week without a fill up. For the wife's scooter that only gets gas every 3-4 months or so, I use the ethanol-free gas and I add in a stabilizer. E-Free gas is not easy to find in Houston, and it's a 16 mile trek one way to get it at Bucees.
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I only use ethanol free in my bikes because sometimes they can sit for a week or so before I used them. All my power equipment gets ethanol free also. On boats its a must have as they sit for long periods. My car and truck use gas with ethanol but they use it up before it can begin to degrade and cause issues. I believe it takes 3 months before gas with ethanol starts to degrade. I base that upon a memo from work where we have a lot of vessels to maintain and keep running.
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Suzuki allows up to 10% or e10 in all models. I use e10 because it keeps my tank dryer and cleaner. If I'm going to store the bike for more than two weeks, I use e10 with stabilizer. If more than a month, e0. If more than three months, e0 with fuel stabilizer. I never store a less than full tank.


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E10 actually attracts water.

Ethanol can causes problems

Because ethanol has an affinity for water, you need to be aware of the conditions in which you operate your equipment. Powersports and lawn & garden equipment should not be stored in damp or wet environments. When water is allowed to collect in the gas tank, the bond between ethanol and gasoline can break, causing a phenomenon known as phase separation.

The ethanol bonds with the water and sinks to the bottom of the fuel tank, which can create a whole host of problems, including the formation of gums, varnish and other insoluble debris that can plug fuel passages and negatively affect engine performance. When this ethanol/water mixture is pulled into the engine, it creates a lean-burn situation that increases combustion-chamber temperatures and can lead to engine damage. Once this happens there is no easy or inexpensive fix. To avoid these problems, contaminated fuel tanks should be emptied and refilled with fresh fuel.

Source: https://www.amsoil.com/newsstand/fue...oil-quickshot/
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a lean-burn situation that increases combustion-chamber temperatures and can lead to engine damage. Once this happens there is no easy or inexpensive fix.

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Yeah, you really want to avoid lean-burn. It makes an engine very unhappy.
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E10 actually attracts water.



Ethanol can causes problems



Because ethanol has an affinity for water, you need to be aware of the conditions in which you operate your equipment. Powersports and lawn & garden equipment should not be stored in damp or wet environments. When water is allowed to collect in the gas tank, the bond between ethanol and gasoline can break, causing a phenomenon known as phase separation.



The ethanol bonds with the water and sinks to the bottom of the fuel tank, which can create a whole host of problems, including the formation of gums, varnish and other insoluble debris that can plug fuel passages and negatively affect engine performance. When this ethanol/water mixture is pulled into the engine, it creates a lean-burn situation that increases combustion-chamber temperatures and can lead to engine damage. Once this happens there is no easy or inexpensive fix. To avoid these problems, contaminated fuel tanks should be emptied and refilled with fresh fuel.



Source: https://www.amsoil.com/newsstand/fue...oil-quickshot/
That only occurs if you are storing the moto longer than a month. If you ride regularly e10 does a much better job of keeping your tank clean and dry because you are actually burning off any water. E0 won't do that.

Moisture in the air enters through the fuel tank gas cap and vent. It actually starts when the fuel is stored at the gas stations.

Ethanol naturally attracts water vapor in the air

Water can condense on any cool surfaces of the tank above the fuel

Rain water can seep around a worn gas cap

Ethanol free gas oxidizes and starts to create gum and varnish in roughly 60 days

E10 can start to deteriorate in roughly 30 days

Ethanol is a solvent that dissolves gum, varnish, rust, dirt deposits and non-metals

Ethanol resistant non-metals break down more slowly

Ethanol-water settles at the bottom of the tank

Bacteria feeding on the ethanol excrete acetic acid that corrodes metals

Water mixing with standard gas additives create gum deposits

Gum, varnish, and deposits clog the fuel system over time

Ethanol-water at the bottom of the tank gets sucked into the engine, causing starting issues

Fuel stabilizer grabs oxygen in the gas, slowing it from turning into gum and varnish

Fuel stabilizer slows the bacteria growth

Keeping your tank full will prevent tank condensation

E10 used frequently can keep your tank dryer and cleaner


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No Ethanol free fuel available in my area except for avgas at the local airport. I use E10.

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HATE ethanol.....worst idea EVER!!!

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