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post #1 of 12 Old 03-09-2011, 07:28 PM Thread Starter
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Rear Axle Threads Buggered

I managed to bugger the threads on my rear axle, apparently by over tightening the nut (while on a trip without my torque wrench). I ride a 2004 DL650, and had a DualStar aftermarket axle nut.

I found a guy who was able to clean up the threads with a die chaser. There is a little visible damage to the threads. The stock Suzuki nut goes on smoothly, but it actually feels like there is a little play in there. For what it's worth, the guy (who makes his living rebuilding foreign cars) thinks the slight damage to the threads should not be a problem.

Question: is it a bad idea to use this axle? Should I bite the bullet and spend the $85 and get a new axle?
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It's hard to tell without seeing and feeling it but it should be fine if a proper size die was used and no threads are missing. Do use anti seize with 58lb-ft of torque in the future to compensate for the lubrication effect.

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Thanks, Greywolf. Again, I asked the guy if the slight damage to the threads would be an issue, and he said no. He makes his living rebuilding engines, so he probably know what he's talking about.

I see you live in Evanston. I live not too far away in Arlington Heights. Maybe we'll bump into each other some day.

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My only concern is some axles were not properly heat treated but those usually showed up on 2005 and early 2006 650s. Good axles never should not have trouble with a Dual Star nut. I have a 35 year old tube of anti seize to contribute a little to the cause along with a practically unused Dual Star nut that I replaced with a 2009 model Suzuki nut if you feel a need.

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You can easily find a good used axle on fleaBay for not much money -- they go for $10 - $20 all the time.

If it bugs you enough to make you worry about the integrity of the bike, I think it's worth replacing.

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You can easily find a good used axle on fleaBay for not much money -- they go for $10 - $20 all the time.
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Good call! Bought one for $20 delivered.

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I managed to bugger the threads on my rear axle, apparently by over tightening the nut (while on a trip without my torque wrench). I ride a 2004 DL650, and had a DualStar aftermarket axle nut.

I found a guy who was able to clean up the threads with a die chaser. There is a little visible damage to the threads. The stock Suzuki nut goes on smoothly, but it actually feels like there is a little play in there. For what it's worth, the guy (who makes his living rebuilding foreign cars) thinks the slight damage to the threads should not be a problem.

Question: is it a bad idea to use this axle? Should I bite the bullet and spend the $85 and get a new axle?
Something that hasn't been addressed here, is the wheel bearings. If you tightend up an axle nut hard enough to stretch the threads, then you pushed the spacers hard into the side of the bearings where they are the weakest. You didn't mention whether or not the bike was ridden while the nut was over tightened. I'd want to look real hard at things before declaring it's all clear.
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There is an inner spacer maintaining the bearing position. Over tightening the nut, if that occurred, would not affect the bearings.

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There is an inner spacer maintaining the bearing position. Over tightening the nut, if that occurred, would not affect the bearings.
I wasn't worried about the bearing being shifted, but more like the side pressure and if one of the balls/cage got damaged. I know what kind of force it takes to distort threads on an object the size of an axle.

I'm not some ham-fisted mechanic here. I'm a licensed A&P and also wrenched a few National Championship winning roadrace bikes back in the mid 90's.

I wouldn't ride the motorcycle across the street until I had a good look at those bearings and everything else that's in the rear wheel assembly, but that's just me.
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I really don't see any way bearing damage could have occurred short of collapsing the spacer between the wheel bearings. It's by far the weakest link and all the threads could be sheared off without affecting it. Its walls are nearly as thick as the bearing inner races. Maybe your experience with race bikes and the importance of keeping unsprung weight down is involved. Every part that is involved with axle nut torque on the DL is into overkill for strength. Only the sprocket carrier bearing has ever shown early wear and that because the sprocket carrier is rubber mounted.


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