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post #1 of 9 Old 03-07-2011, 11:38 AM Thread Starter
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Steering Stabilzers and Front Tire Wear?

While admiring both the visual and visceral beauty of the undulating wear pattern of the 12,000 mile+ Metzeler Tourance on the front rim of my Superbraced K7 DL650A, I wondered if it could have been prevented by the addition of a steering stabilzer and/or damper.

What I mean is, I will assume for the purposes of this thread, that the tire tread pattern tends to set up by an, at first unnoticable, occilation which starts a feedback loop resulting in the eneven tire wear that has appeared on every Tourance and Trailwing that has adorned the front my ride.

If one were to introduce say a Scott's Steering Stabilizer and a new tire, would the Stabilizer prevent this assumed feedback loop causing this tire wear pattern?

Or is it something else like braking, suspension, tire pressure, road crowning, diet or spindly forks?

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It's about tire wear patterns. Tires wear the way they do because of the construction, not because of mini oscillations. A damper will prevent tank slappers and keep the bars from kicking your hands off on a pothole or rock strike but won't do much for tiny movements. I had a front Conti Road Attack that liked to cause handlebar oscillations at around 40mph. My Scotts damper may have limited them but it didn't prevent them.

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At 12,000 miles any tire is going to start to show wierd patterns in it. Heck the tire is worn out. I have never gotton over 8,000 miles before replacing a front tire anyway........
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At 12,000 miles any tire is going to start to show wierd patterns in it. Heck the tire is worn out. I have never gotton over 8,000 miles before replacing a front tire anyway........
I probably should have replaced it a while ago.

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I think you'd get better results with an alignment. The laser alignment the local dealer did on my bike made a remarkable difference in the bike's tracking, loss of headshake, that gassy, bloated feeling, and more. I plan to make it a regular maintenance item going forward.

Then again, when that nasty headshake kicks in at 120, the damper does have it's appeal.

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I think you'd get better results with an alignment. The laser alignment the local dealer did on my bike made a remarkable difference in the bike's tracking, loss of headshake, that gassy, bloated feeling, and more. I plan to make it a regular maintenance item going forward.

Then again, when that nasty headshake kicks in at 120, the damper does have it's appeal.
So they precisely align the rear wheel with the frame?

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So they precisely align the rear wheel with the frame?
No, they align the front wheel with the back wheel, with precision.

I'll tell you this much: even when the bike was only a week old, if I took my hands off the bars at low speed, the bars would waggle like crazy. Not any more, even with 4k miles on the tires.

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All the fronts on my bike have done the same thing sooner or later, Anakees, Tourances, Trailwings, Pilot Roads -- the Battlewing on there now hasn't done it yet, but I'm sure it will. The Anakee and the Pilot Road did the scallop routine sooner. I suppose that makes sense since those two tires have a softer rubber compound than the others.

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All the fronts on my bike have done the same thing sooner or later, Anakees, Tourances, Trailwings, Pilot Roads -- the Battlewing on there now hasn't done it yet, but I'm sure it will. The Anakee and the Pilot Road did the scallop routine sooner. I suppose that makes sense since those two tires have a softer rubber compound than the others.
My experience too. I just pump up the front tire to 50 psi for a thousand miles or so and the tread evens up. I normally run my front at ~38.

Presently 17.5K on my front D607 with tread to spare.
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