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post #1 of 21 Old 01-20-2011, 01:01 PM Thread Starter
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DL1000 "Aw Crap"

Hi Troops,

The Vee was running perfectly last week, but since it's approacing 30k miles and hasn't been touched in 15K miles, I decided to take it in to a local shop for a valve adjustment, TBS, air-filter and plugs. I also picked up a new TPS sensor because I've been dealing with the well-known sputter and stall routine after long highway miles. To be clear, day to day riding, the bike ran perfectly. Only after 1+ hours at highway speed would it sputter, and that would only be for a moment until I cycled the throtte and ignition.

The shop just called this morning and started asking questions about why I had them replace the TPS. To make a long call short, apparently since they buttoned it up and test rode it, it now "idles perfectly," but cuts out, sputters, and otherwise runs rough when they try to take it up to speed. The mechanic started suggesting things like a bad fuel pump etc., and I explained that the bike was PERFECT when I rode it in last Friday.

What did they do wrong? Did they miss the alignment of the cam lobes when they set the valves? Forget a vacuum hose?

I need suggestions to take to the shop

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Sorry to hear that.

I had the dealer replace my TPS which they claimed was not defective.

Funny thing is it returned to running normally after it was replaced.

I guess there's a number of things they could've screwed up, but I'm not going to make any more guesses.

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Did they warm up the bike and set the TPS correctly?

Get it back from those goobers before they screw up anything else.

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I talked to the mech again. He has this nervous tone to his voice now that reminds me of when I walk in the kid's room and he hides his laptop under the covers.

He seems to have gotten some advice because this time he said he adjusted the TPS. I suspect he may have just plugged the new one in and not realized it has to be adjusted.

Worst case: they'll ruin the bike and I'll have no choice but to go and buy a C-14. Sure, I hate that outcome, but dammit, I just can't shirk my fiscal irresponsibilities any longer.

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I talked to the mech again. He has this nervous tone to his voice now that reminds me of when I walk in the kid's room and he hides his laptop under the covers.

He seems to have gotten some advice because this time he said he adjusted the TPS. I suspect he may have just plugged the new one in and not realized it has to be adjusted.

Worst case: they'll ruin the bike and I'll have no choice but to go and buy a C-14. Sure, I hate that outcome, but dammit, I just can't shirk my fiscal irresponsibilities any longer.

First time through, I read that as C-4, as in the explosive...

I doubt the Vee is screwed up permanently, anyway.

But at this point, I'm not sure what the odds are of the "mechanic" actually setting the TPS correctly are.

If all he has is the factory manual, I believe it tells him to use special dealer tool such-and-so on the dealer mode connector. He may not understand that all you really need to do is jam a piece of wire in there to connect the two leads...

And I'm virtually dead certain he doesn't know that you can set the TPS in about two minutes from the left side of the bike without moving the tank or fairing...

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bwringer,

Can you tell me a little more on how to do this, so I can pass it along? Or is there a thread here? I'll search for that next.

Thanks!

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Try this:

https://www.stromtrooper.com/dl-1000-...ment-tank.html


https://www.stromtrooper.com/dl-1000-...placement.html

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Truly sucks! Lot of good mechanics out there. Unfortunatly also some bad ones. Hope you get the situation resolved. At least living in Florida lost riding time is not as much of an issue.
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Trailer Rescue

If anybody's interested:

The shop called yesterday; by then they'd had the bike for over a week. They said it was still running badly, and said they thought it was the ECU, or the fuel pump, or the TPS. Then they asked if I wanted to start buying new parts or let them. I told them I'd be there to pick up the bike in an hour.

They charged me $300. I didn't argue because I wanted the bike out of there. By this time they'd taken it apart and put it back together 3 times, and still had no idea what was wrong.

I took it to Riva shortly before they closed yesterday. (Riva is the local dealership). The service guy at Riva called this morning:

1. The TBS was completly wrong.
2. The new TPS was programmed wrong and that ruined it.
3. The secondary TPS is now no good an needs replacement.
4. The wiring harness for my PCIII was badly pinched and may be ruined.

So, Riva wants $660 to fix it. I authorized the work; the fact is the same mechanic did the TBS and valve check last year, and the bike ran great. I only took it to the other guys because Riva left the air filter gasket off. And I thought I'd like to find a local shop to do the occasional maintenance I don't do myself.

I've requested a refund from the other shop. If they give it up, I'll drop it. If not, I'm going to roll over. It's just not right to ride a bike into a shop and have to pay to haul it away on a trailer a week later. I'll find a way to get the word out about what happened to me, if I have to.

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Glad you are going to get it fixed. Need a good bike for your ride in March.
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