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post #1 of 40 Old 08-14-2010, 09:42 PM Thread Starter
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Solve this chain mystery

OEM chain. 0-27,800 miles
All it ever saw for cleaning and lube was WD40.
At 17K miles I replaced the front sprocket with an identical 15T from suzuki.
At about 25K miles, the chain was getting noisy and continued to get worse untill I replaced it.
There were no kinks, no signs of rust.
I was not having to adjust it.
The only reason I replaced it was the noise.
Second front sprocket looked OK, rear sprocket looked very good.

2nd chain. 27,800-45,040 miles
OEM exact replacement - D.I.D VM 8
Suzuki OEM sprockets replaced with same, along with chain.
Now we're back with the same brand new stuff we started with at 0 miles.
All this chain ever saw was used motor oil from my vstrom.
At about 42K miles (14.2K for chain) I replaced the 15T front sprocket with an aftermarket 14T.
At about 43K miles (15.2K for chain), I had 2 kinked pins.
At almost 45K miles (17K for chain) I had 9 kinked pins, some worse than others.
I cleaned the chain every day from here on out with WD40 - it did not help. The kinked pins remaned. None of the kinks involved the masterlinks.
No rust. No noise. Chain did not need adjusting. No unusual wear noticed.
Front sprocket looked ok. Rear sprocket looked very good.
I replaced this chain at 45,040 miles, for a lifespan of 17,240 miles.

This is over 10K miles difference between the 2 chains.

Both chains were kept adjusted the same.

I have a 3rd identical chain on now and going back to 100% WD40. The difference here is I'm not going to start out with new sprockets.

So, any ideas what went on with the first 2 chains - why the difference in life and the differences in how they failed, and why?
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I suspect that either you lubed one way more often than the other, or put the lube in different spots (the WD40 tends to "creep" much more.)

When putting on my last rear tire I was talked with my mechanic (who I respect very much) about my chain. I realized that I wasn't lubing quite the right spot. The only part of a chain that really needs to be lubed is the area where the roller touches the side plate. I was trying to spray the lube between the plate and of course some gets in the area it should have anyway.

When you have links that are sticking, often putting extra lube in that area will loosen the link up and the chain can come back to life. My current chain has about 35,000 miles on it and has never been adjusted outside of tire changes, and generally never been adjusted then either. I lube with HHS2000 after every tank of gas and after every ride in the rain. I never have cleaned my chain (there is no reason to do so as it does nothing beneficial to the chain anyway.)

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post #3 of 40 Old 08-14-2010, 11:43 PM
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chain mystery

I have a Wee. The first chain I got 31000 miles out of it. I now have 53000 miles on the bike and this chain is doing fine. I never clean a chain and I live on a dirt road. It's the only dirt the bike sees. I use the Belray heavey duty lube on a trip and 250 rearend grease for all my around town trips. I use the bike every day for something. I oil the chain whenever the rollers get shiney and change the front sprocket at about 10 to 12 thousand miles. It saves the stretch on the chain. I only have to adjust at about 5000 miles.
That's my story and it works for me.
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A chain with sticking links is on its way out. Sticking means metal transfer and nothing will fix that.

Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. I didn't quite make it to 17,000 miles on the 2012 DL650A.
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i think they (the OEM) do that on purpose. install higher quality components at the factory so you think, "oh, what a wonderful bike. the chain is lasting sooooooo long. and the brakes are lasting fore-EVER." then they sell you junk so you have to replace it more often. i got 14,000 miles on my first set of pads and barely three out of the replacement set. smae riding conditions and style.

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The stock chain is a DID or RK basic quality chain. I wouldn't get replacement pads or chains from Suzuki.

Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. I didn't quite make it to 17,000 miles on the 2012 DL650A.
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10,000 mile chain

According to the PO the chain and sprocket was replaced at 10,000 mi. I replaced it at 20k and man, did it need replacing. Got an OEM kit with a xw-ring chain and sprockets. 20k warranty.

We ride 2 up with gear. Lube often. Ride hard.

We will see how this one holds up.

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Maybe dirty used motor oil is not a good chain lub. The detergent in the oil may wash out the grease and cause premature failure.

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My wife purchased a wee s. last year and I rode it on several long trips as a result of dependability issues with my Buell. Anyway I was so impressed with bike, and also lurking here that I just purchased an 08. Anyway cutting to the chase, these are the first bikes I have had since the late 70's that have had chains. So I am not sure what is the best method and also best product and also how frequently to oil/lub these new chains. I have heard about all the spcial products etc including the new teflone spary, wd40, keronse used motor oil,etc. And also oil at evey fill-up etc. Frequency of changing chain, sprockets, and also chain tension. Any good info would be appreciated.
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post #10 of 40 Old 08-15-2010, 12:42 PM
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I hope you realize you just asked what's the best religion and how often to attend services. It sounds like you've already got some literature. For me, Dupont multipurpose dry wax lube with Teflon applied every second gas stop, or at the end of each touring day and whenever it's been rained on. I've replaced chains and sprockets about every 24,000 miles doing that.

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