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post #1 of 16 Old 05-17-2006, 08:01 AM Thread Starter
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Tire Balance

OK I have been wondering about motor cycle tires and how they are balanced. Can anyone tell me how it is done? I see no weights on the rims now and was curious.

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post #2 of 16 Old 05-17-2006, 08:10 AM
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Two methods, stick on and clip on weights. FWIW, I haven't balanced a tire in years on a bike beyond the original weights that I feel do more to balance the rim rather than the tire, and have never had vibration or wear issues.
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When mounting a tire you have to see where the tire has the yellow or white dot! It depends on the tire company what color they use. Line that up with the valve stem and place on a spin balancer. Sometimes youll get lucky and need very little or no weight. If it needs a lot of weight change the location of the tire (DOT) by letting air out and turning the tire(DOT) either foreward/backwards from the valve stem until least amount of weight is needed. Dont forget to watch the direction arrows on tire. (Direction of rotation) If mount/spin the tire in wrong direction it will never balance! Always worked good for me! Bob.
 
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The last three sets I have bought have been Michelin's (most recently a set of Anakees last week) and they had no dots indicating the light spot. Others I have talked to, say fewer tires now have them. I can only conclude that tires are better balanced overall than they used to be.
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This is what I use, and it works great. Even on the XR650 that has 2 rim locks there is no bouncing. I use it on the CTD3500 with 35" tires and no vibration.

http://www.innovativebalancing.com/

I have used other balancing media over the years, but this is the best so far.
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This is what I use, and it works great. Even on the XR650 that has 2 rim locks there is no bouncing. I use it on the CTD3500 with 35" tires and no vibration.

http://www.innovativebalancing.com/

I have used other balancing media over the years, but this is the best so far.
Cheff, that looks real interesting! Do you change the tires yourself, then just pour the beads in for balancing? What all is needed to change tubeless tires? I've changed tubed tires before (tractor) but never before on my bike -- my last bike had tubed tires and I took the wheels off and took them to the dealer for install If I can avoid that scenario in the future, I would consider that a good thing

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Interesting topic, it seems to me in the US and Canada you guys do these tyre issues usually yourself? In Hungary (Europe) we have a lot of shops exclusively doing tyre repairs. We simply remove the tyres at home and let them do the job. They get special machines for both the tyre removal/reinstall and the balancing. Not too expensive and they have professional tools avoiding to hurt the rims of the tyres.

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In the US it is apparently expensive to get tires mounted (I have seen prices quoted of $70.00 per tire) Here in Toronto I have a small independant mech who charges $10.00 if I bring him the rim & tires. He charges $30.00 if he has to remove them from the bike 8) Sounds like we get a great deal in comparison to my American friends

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Interesting topic, it seems to me in the US and Canada you guys do these tyre issues usually yourself? In Hungary (Europe) we have a lot of shops exclusively doing tyre repairs. We simply remove the tyres at home and let them do the job. They get special machines for both the tyre removal/reinstall and the balancing. Not too expensive and they have professional tools avoiding to hurt the rims of the tyres.

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The last three sets I have bought have been Michelin's (most recently a set of Anakees last week) and they had no dots indicating the light spot. Others I have talked to, say fewer tires now have them. I can only conclude that tires are better balanced overall than they used to be.
Yup. Tires are much better than they used to be.. Maybe part of the whole radial tire thing??

Tire changing around the midwest seems pretty pricey, which is why I've changed my own for the last 10+ years.. With the cost of tire mounting, because I do my own, every third to forth tire is free..

I also buy from SWMototire.com, where shipping is free if you buy 2 or more tires at the same time.. Never much of a problem for me. I'm either in need of 2 tires, or I have a buddy in need of one, too.. :wink:

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Cheff, that looks real interesting! Do you change the tires yourself, then just pour the beads in for balancing? What all is needed to change tubeless tires? I've changed tubed tires before (tractor) but never before on my bike -- my last bike had tubed tires and I took the wheels off and took them to the dealer for install If I can avoid that scenario in the future, I would consider that a good thing
It really works, no kidding here, and no affiliation to any one. Yes I change the tires my self, have been on all my bikes, and my friends bikes for years now.

I change the tires (tube or no tube) then pour the dynabeads in through the valve stem. You do need a filtered valve core so the beads won’t clog it. The tire stays balanced all the time, no matter the wear pattern. That is the best part of this stuff.

Some of the earlier stuff I tried would rust, or clump with moisture, and was way more expensive. This little marbles work great and are comparable to paying for lifetime balancing (which when I did pay for it, I never had it done).

The hardest part of tubless tires is the breaking of the bead and the seating of the bead. But I have never had real trouble with motorcycle tires. One good way to break the bead is to roll the bike while the valve core is out. The weight of the bike will usually break the bead. I have a bead breaker so I only do this while on the road/trail to change a tube. (that is if the flat did not already break the bead while I was riding )
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