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post #1 of 5 Old 05-08-2006, 10:22 AM Thread Starter
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What's the deal with Mobil-1 MX4T

It sounds like just the ticket for the 'Strom but why is it so friggin' expensive? Targeted at Harley riders maybe?

Is anybody using this stuff in their 'Strom?

Here's a blurb on it's MC-specific properties...

"Fully synthetic Mobil 1 motorcycle oils are specifically engineered for use in motorcycles. The formulations are based on the proven technology used in other Mobil 1 automotive products, yet they are optimized for the unique requirements of a motorcycle engine and/or transmission.

Mobil 1 MX4T is designed for sport bikes. Most of these bikes have multi-cylinder/multi-valve engines and use a common sump, which means the engine oil lubricates the engine, transmission and wet clutch. So unlike Mobil 1 for cars, Mobil 1 MX4T has no friction modifiers, which could lead to clutch slippage.

The motorcycle oil also has more phosphorus/zinc for enhanced wear protection at high engine speeds and high loads.

In addition, Mobil 1 MX4T uses different dispersant/detergent technology for better high-temperature performance and engine cleanliness. Mobil 1 MX4T is also offered in a different viscosity grade than Mobil 1 for passenger cars.

Mobil 1 V-Twin oil is designed for air-cooled, large-displacement bikes. Because of their design, these engines can generate very high localized oil temperatures and high overall bulk-oil temperatures.

As you know, a typical air-cooled V-twin's rear cylinder gets a lot hotter than the front cylinder it's a matter of airflow. When it's hot out and you're stuck in traffic, the oil temperature in your bike climbs rapidly. Above about 250F, conventional motor oil is going to break down. Mobil 1 V-Twin synthetic oil is good to above 300F.

Like Mobil 1 MX4T, Mobil 1 V-Twin has high levels of phosphorus/zinc and the same high-temperature detergent technology for superior wear protection and engine cleanliness, even at elevated oil temperatures. And it's formulated to protect against wet clutch slippage.

You can use Mobil 1 Motorcycle oils with confidence, knowing they will protect your bike in extreme situations where conventional motor oils simply can not stand up, including extended high-speed operation and prolonged idling in summertime traffic."


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post #2 of 5 Old 05-08-2006, 11:13 AM
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Mobil will readily admit that their motorcycle oils cost no more to produce than their car oils. But they'll correctly make the point that a speciality oil for motorcycles produced in 2% the volume of their car oils requires completely different distribution, marketing, support, etc. IOW, they charge more because the market is willing to pay more for something custom tailored to a specific application. It's basically the same reason that the same hamburger costs $15 at a good restaurant and $3 at McDonalds.

Whether a motorcycle-specific oil is really necessary in a motorcycle is probably the most-debated internet subject there is - google away and read for days. Personally, I use M1 15W-50 car oil in most of my bikes including my Strom.

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It couldn't be that motorcyclists are willing to pay more for oil that has "motorcycle" printed on the container, could it?

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post #4 of 5 Old 05-08-2006, 07:55 PM
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It couldn't be that motorcyclists are willing to pay more for oil that has "motorcycle" printed on the container, could it?
I do believe you have it!

Buy Rotella Syn T $16 a gallon at Wal-Mart. Or even Rotella T at $9 a gallon. Or Chevron Dyno. Oh, whatever desiel oil is readily available (Rotella is "everywhere").

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post #5 of 5 Old 05-08-2006, 09:34 PM
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You're all correct!
I hate to think how much I've contributed to Castrol over my 44 yrs of riding just because, for years, it was the only oil that said 'air cooled' & 'motorcycle' on the label.

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