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post #1 of 16 Old 04-25-2006, 07:23 AM Thread Starter
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Problems accelerating..Help please..

Hi:
I'm not mechanically knowledgeable at all, so please bear with me.
My DL650 started giving me problems around february. On my way back from a ride I would try to accelerate but it would not move any faster. It sounded like it was accelerating, the RPMs show that it was but I wasn't moving any faster. About the time I arrive to my house it was having problems going faster than 10 miles per hour and it could not go up a hill. I took it to the dealer and after a week they told me that they needed to replace the "clutch plates". The plates were melted or something like that. I asked them why that would happend and they did not know. It was not covered by the warranty. I called Suzuki, which it's kind of hard because the phone number is hidden, and they said that it was not covered. The bike had 8 months and around 5k miles on it when this happend.
Now $400 and 2 months later I'm having the same problem. This Thursday I was planning a saddlesore attempt to the niagara falls. I've been planning it for a while and have reservations in a hotel down there.
I left the bike at the dealer this morning and will go talk to them around 9am.
Does anyone know what my rights are? Do all Suzuki dealers take more than a week to repair a bike?
My previous bike was a 2002 Honda Shadow. It was not as comfortable or as fast as my Vstrom but I did not have any problems with it. No false neutrals or clutch problems at all. The time I had to take it to the dealer to replace the brake pads it took them maybe half a day.
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Seems like the dealer should have been able to diagnose and repair the problem better than they did. Definetly sounds like a clutch problem, though. I don't know what course of action you should take at this point. If they are unwilling to take your bike back in for another look, you might want to contact the BBB or something and try another dealer. It sucks because you've already gave them $400 smackers! :x

If you end up with no resolution with this at this dealer. maybe you should post a warning to others in the DEALERS section of the forum to warn others to stay away. If they lose any business, they deserve it! :twisted:

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The problem with clutch plates is that they are a wear item just like brake pads. Wear items are not covered by the warranty. Melted is probably not the right word. Glazed is more likely. An overheated clutch plate set can "cook" the top layer and drastically reduce its coefficient of friction. Since this has happened twice, I've got to wonder if your clutch lever setting has no free play or if you slip the clutch a lot. A clutch basket not parallel to or concentric to the shaft can cause problems too but is rare and usually noticible to the rider. Weak clutch springs are also a possibility. Until the problem is found, the bike will continue to eat clutch plates. Oil type, level and viscosity can have a hand in the process too as the clutch runs in oil. The manufacturer's and dealer's first thought will be the rider is abusing the clutch.

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Is your clutch adjusted properly? Is it fully engaging?

There should be about 3/8" to 1/2" free play in the lever.

Are you using an oil with friction modifiers in it?

Did you buy it new?

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The service department told me they would try to inspect it today. He asked me if I was slipping the clutch. I have been riding for 4 years now and have completed the experience MSF course. I did not have any problems with my previous motorcycle.
I bought the Vstrom new on may 2005. I did not have problems during the first 7-8 months. The last oil change was done by the dealer when they replace the clutch plates.
I've been planning this trip for a while. Getting all the farkles I wanted and now this. It's very frustrating.
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Definitely sounds like you're frying the clutch for some reason.

It's possible its a defect in the bike that is causing the clutch wear problem, but typically its something the rider is doing that is putting undue stress on the clutch: burnouts, wheelies, holding the bike on a hill with the clutch, etc. I'm not accusing, but you sound like somewhat of a novice. Do you think there is any possibility you're abusing the clutch, perhaps without knowing it? During your ERC, did the instructor talk to you at all about your clutch technique?

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I'm thinking along the lines of Mark. I just wonder what kind of adjustment you have with your clutch. You should have at least a little play at the lever. If you don't have ANY play, the clutch may not be fully engaging and is in a constant state of slippage. More so in higher gears and when your getting on the gas or going up hills.

Did the dealer check your clutch adjustment or ask you about it or anything? If not, that should have been one of the first things looked into when you brought it in. I'm starting to question your dealer's competency and ethics. :?

Keep us posted on any updates as they arise. We are all curiuos about this.

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Problems accelerating..Help please..

I appreciate everyones input. The dealer did not asked me about clutch adjustment.
I recognized that I am a novice on all mechanics aspects. I have driven cars for more than 15 years in almost all types of circumstances and distances but if you asked me to explain what is wrong with my car I would tell you, it makes a weird noise under the hood. I'm not an expert ridding motorcycles but I've been commuting and touring on my bikes for a while now. After I had the original problem I was ridding slower and watching my clutch usage a lot. On hills even before this I would stop with my rear brake and not the clutch.
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This guy had a clutch problem that was because of a bad cable set up. It was covered under warranty.

650...Anything more than a handfull is wasted
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You sound like a reasonably guy. I doubt you're abusing the clutch and you really have to be ham-fisted to burn up a clutch just due to bad technique.

Other than holding the bike on a hill with the clutch, the only other thing I can think of is riding all the time with the clutch slightly pulled, often times just due to being tense. I have taught a few students in the experienced MSF course who have gotten into the bad habit of always pulling and slipping the clutch as a crutch whenever they go around any corner or do anything other than drive straight ahead. Basic rule for the clutch is that unless you're getting underway or shifting between gears, the clutch should be fully released. You can cover the clutch with your fingers, but no reisdual pressure should be on the lever whatsoever.

Free play is the amount the clutch lever moves before you begin to feel the resistance of the clutch springs. It shoudl be about 1/2 to 3/4" at the end of the lever. It's easy to adjust with the barrel adjuster at the pivot of the lever - loose the locking thumbwheel and turn the barrel to get the adjustment you need. If you run out of adjustment there, you can make further adjustments where the cable enters the engine on the left side.

Yes, it sound like something is amiss in this adjustment or there is some other defect in the clutch that is causing premature wear.

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