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post #1 of 21 Old 07-23-2019, 10:11 AM Thread Starter
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How frozen is a frozen link?

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I am trying to understand if my chain has frozen links, and... well... I could use some help.

The chain has around 6000km on it, I was expecting it to last at least 3 times that. It was in good conditions when I stored the bike before the winter. The bike was inside a shed, covered by the rain, but still an outside shed and this winter was quite cold and wet. When I picked it up I found small rust spots on some links which I cleaned with a metal brush and WD40. Now some of the bushings (the metal cylinder around the rollers) do not freely roll (the other would keep on rolling once started), the chain links can be moved although some offer some resistance... now I cannot remember if this was the same as the new chain...

Is there a way to tell if the links are frozen and beyond saving? I'd rather avoid spending extra money for a perfectly fine chain, on the other hand if the chain has started a downhill path with no return, maybe I should just change it now...

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post #2 of 21 Old 07-23-2019, 10:21 AM
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I'm certain others will chime in but I'd lube it and run it for at least a couple of days. Then recheck it so see if it hasn't freed up. My "test" is will the chain sag evenly/properly between sprockets when not in tension. Then again, I'm cheap!
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Replace it...or replace your motor. Pretty simple math!

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rust 'spots' aren't a problem but frozen links means o rings are compromised. I would replace chain. a wire brush can damage o rings.
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With only 6,000 on the chain you should be able to resurrect it. Use an old tooth brush and oil to work the oil into the rollers and coat the O rings. WD 40 is a penetrant and doesn't leave much lubricant after so i would avoid it at this point. The rollers will usually free up with oiling and use as they are not sealed and fresh oil can work in and wash out the rust. Stiff or frozen links( the ones that look zig zaged after coming off the front sprocket ) can be worked by carefully grasping the center of the link from the side with needle nose pliers and twisting it back and forth. You are trying to work some oil into the dried out O ring. If the sealed part of the chain, between the pin and bushing, has lost its grease and is rusting the chain is done. Though a buddy that had one badly frozen link pushed the offending pins out and riveted a new greased up master link in to the spot. He got about another 10k out of the chain.

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How often do you lube your chain??? Have you ever used solvents to clean your chain???

My last chain had over 33,000 miles (61,000 km) with no tight links and I NEVER used any solvents to 'clean' it.

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All good comments.

What make is the chain? Was it a "cheap ebay find" or a reputable maker product?

When you pull at the chain on the rear sprocket at the 3 o'clock position, can you pull it off the sprocket and see light between the chain and the sprocket?

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I would start with ATF. It will help the O-rings & penetrate better than the thicker stuff. If it comes back to life, I'd be using a dedicated chain lube on it. Also, it will most likely get quite lose as it frees up.
WD-40 washes lubricant away. WD means Water Dispersant. It has its uses, but I don't use it on my chain as a lube.

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I would start with ATF also and use it always. It softens dried out o rings and keeps them from drying out. of course the chain could be too far gone but try atf for some distance and see if it works or if the chain is too far gone.
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rust 'spots' aren't a problem but frozen links means o rings are compromised. I would replace chain. a wire brush can damage o rings.
great, so the chain could have been ok right until the moment I used the wire brush...

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