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post #1 of 12 Old 07-12-2009, 03:27 AM Thread Starter
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Can't find neutral/hard, clunky shift - DL650

Just riding my '05 dl650 with 25,000 miles by the previous owner. In the month that I had it, and ridden 1000 miles, I have experience a hard shifting especially on downshift. I have changed the oil since and it exactly the same. If the bike is still and with engine running, it is almost impossible to find neutral. With engine is switched off, neutral happens magically easy. Also, I feel that I am missing out on power somewhere as it doesn't appear quite so powerful as when I tried a buddy's dl650 couple of months ago. And his shifting was soooo butter smooth. I hope I did not buy myself a lemon. Previous owner was a hard rider.
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Clutch may be going bad or needing adjustment. Some have said synethic oil will burn a clutch fast. I'm not a oil buff and can't confirm that. I use a part synethic oil. I would call the dealer and inquire if they might be able to tell you what is going on with out saying "bring it in"
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post #3 of 12 Old 07-12-2009, 03:45 AM
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It needs a clutch. $100 and a couple hours of work will fix the problem. Make sure that the basket is not notched while you are in there.
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Just riding my '05 dl650 with 25,000 miles by the previous owner. In the month that I had it, and ridden 1000 miles, I have experience a hard shifting especially on downshift. I have changed the oil since and it exactly the same. If the bike is still and with engine running, it is almost impossible to find neutral. With engine is switched off, neutral happens magically easy. Also, I feel that I am missing out on power somewhere as it doesn't appear quite so powerful as when I tried a buddy's dl650 couple of months ago. And his shifting was soooo butter smooth. I hope I did not buy myself a lemon. Previous owner was a hard rider.
Have you checked the clutch cable adjustment and clutch lever free play? It may be wise to remove the front sprocket cover and do the clutch adjustment as per the manual and then adjust the free play and the lever. You must do the adjustment at the clutch end before the free play can be done. The whole process take 20 minutes. If you still have the same problem after that, then at least you have a good starting point. This link might be useful https://www.stromtrooper.com/forums/s...tch+adjustment


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No, actually there's nothing wrong with it. Per all the other similar posts on this forum, all you need to do is downshift before coming to a complete stop.

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No, actually there's nothing wrong with it. Per all the other similar posts on this forum, all you need to do is downshift before coming to a complete stop.
Bingo....................he also might try adjusting the shifter linkage, that may also help.

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No, actually there's nothing wrong with it. Per all the other similar posts on this forum, all you need to do is downshift before coming to a complete stop.
Thanks for your replies. Good point though I feel it requires too radical an input from the rider to fall without the realms of normal operation. Seems something is wrong. I have adjusted the free play at the clutch - thru' my mech when I brought it for the first service. And its effects run throughtout the gear range with emphasis on the lower gear. I can't believe neutral can dissappear at a stop with the engine still running - that alone is not normal for any bike. Also, if what I get now is all the power a dl650 can give, I would consider it somewhat dissapointing. I hope its an issue with the bike when fix will bring it up to where I hear all the good reviews about. At this level, its not delivering well enough. I am wondering what kind of change a replacement clutch will bring for a dl650 that needed one.


PS: power delivery is slightly lethargic enough that I need to do a premature (IMO) shift to each higher gear.

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The output shaft stops turning when you stop making it very, very difficult to downshift. It is necessary to pop the clutch out slightly to get the output shaft turning to go down a gear if you have stopped moving more than a few seconds before downshifting. Fact of life.

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In the 'oil window glass'.....make sure it reads..."FULL".

And....fill it up with a high quality oil....Rotella Synthetic 5W40.

Shifting should turn...silk smooth. If it doesn't...take it to the shop.

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Have you checked the clutch cable adjustment and clutch lever free play? It may be wise to remove the front sprocket cover and do the clutch adjustment as per the manual and then adjust the free play and the lever. You must do the adjustment at the clutch end before the free play can be done. The whole process take 20 minutes. If you still have the same problem after that, then at least you have a good starting point. This link might be useful https://www.stromtrooper.com/forums/s...tch+adjustment


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Oh. Just saw this pushrod thingy business. Never heard of it. Will read up deeper when I have the chance. THanks.
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