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post #1 of 19 Old 01-30-2019, 12:09 AM Thread Starter
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Weird Oil Drain Plug

So this happened...

I did my first oil change on my new-to-me in Mexico 2014 Vstrom 1K. I noticed the plug was a little stiff coming out, sort of like someone put blue locktite on it. But when I got the plug out, it was obvious that this isn't the stock plug.

Ugly, isn't it?

My theory is that this is some sort of generic self-tapping drain plug replacement for when a gorilla over-torques the plug and damages the threads in the oil sump.

I had a stock drain plug which I tried in the apparently partially now reamed out hole just for curiousity -- it was almost all the way in before the threads caught and I could only get about half a turn before it bottomed out -- without the crush washer. Nope -- that's not going to work. I put the ugly one that came out back in and tightened it just enough to barely seat against the new crush washer.

I've never come across one of these before -have any of you?.

Am I right and that's what this thing is?

Anyone have any experience with these things? Is this a reasonable fix and can I expect it to hold up over time or will I eventually need a better solution which I assume would be something like a timesert or helicoil? (It may be a challenge finding someone who has experience doing that down here.)

Sorry for the fuzzy picture -- my iPhone apparently couldn't stand looking at it either so it wouldn't focus sharply!


Thanks for any insight,

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post #2 of 19 Old 01-30-2019, 12:35 AM
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That's apparently an oversized self tapping oil drain plug. A better fix would be something like a Time Sert oil drain plug repair. Do some searching to find the correct kit. I'm not sure if the kit will allow you to use the original plug.

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That looks like a bolt from a reloading die that holds the decapping pin. Odd place for it.
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That's an unpleasant surprise for a new to you bike.

Dorman has a few options.

https://www.dormanproducts.com/gsear...il+drain+plugs
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That looks like a bolt from a reloading die that holds the decapping pin. Odd place for it.


Is it solid? Most of those have a hole all the way through. https://www.precisionreloading.com/c...!l=LE&i=SD2151

Doorman and eco plug both make somewhat different solutions for stripped oil drain holes.


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Best is some type of permanent repair, but there are expanding rubber plugs to get you by in the short term.

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Is it solid? Most of those have a hole all the way through.

Doorman and eco plug both make somewhat different solutions for stripped oil drain holes.


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It looks like a self-tapping drain bolt, as you suspected.

On the head there should be a number printed, either a 1, 2, or 3. That tells you how much oversized it is. They increase in size by number. Once you hit 3, you have to do the time-sert thing, or something similar.

I'd never seen this before I resurrected my buddy's CB750 last summer. It had one installed and needed repairing again.

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On the other hand, if it is doing the job of plugging the drain hole, why not leave well enough alone?
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Yes, it IS a self-tapping drain plug. Ive seen..and dealt with many of them.
As suggested above, the Time-sert repair is the best permanent repair. The tool set makes sure the threads for the insert are installed at an exact 90-drgeree angle to the thread bore surface. The Time-sert will not come out when removing the plug like some have done. Ive 2 Time sert sets, one for 14mm drain plugs and another for 10mm spark plug threads. About $90 each.
Your oil drain plug dilemma is a a poster child for advocating the use of a torque wrench.

As for a possible problem with a self-tapping drain plug: Ive seen more than a few tht with repeated removal, will strip out the threads again until you need the next oversize self-tapping plug. Unfortunately the Vstrom V-Twin drain plug threads are in the crankcase itself instead of a replaceable oil pan. A 1-time permanent repair is your best bet.

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