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post #1 of 8 Old 06-27-2009, 01:07 PM Thread Starter
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Unhappy Wee stalls at idle, after a parking lot drop

Hi gang,

I dropped my '06 weestrom at a stop earlier this week. I laid it most of the way over and only let it "drop" the last few inches. Tip Over Sensor worked and killed the engine before I got to the kill switch. I picked it up, waited until my hands stopped shaking, assessed a scratched front fender, scratched trunk, broke the ball off my clutch lever, and gave my engine guard a kiss for doing a great job of protecting my tank.

Got on, rode around, came back to work, let it sit 4 hours, rode it home with no issues. Next morning rode it to work again, no issues, plenty of power... on the way home it fired up, warmed up, and as I pulled up to the first stoplight she died at idle. Fired right back up again that time and every time... she proceeded to die at idle almost every time I stopped for the rest of the 25 mile ride home in traffic. There were some slight blips in RPMs at idle on the occasions that she didn't die - idling as low as 800rpm, and cycling the idle from ~900-~1100rpm (1100rpm seems to be "normal" on my bike though I haven't previously checked it closely). I had NO loss of power anywhere through my power band. I run a Power Commander, K&N air filters and Hindle exhaust - she's a screamer.

Got home, put it on the sidestand, and let it idle... and she idled for at least 10 minutes without issue. Killed it, started again, idle idle idle no problem. Next day similar testing on side stand or when held upright - the problem is present but intermittent, 50/50 whether it will die at idle, or idle fine but die after I rev it up for a minute, or just outright die. I charged the battery up just to be sure.

So my problem is intermittent, and I have a few ideas about what the issue is. Will start tearing into her today and hope to complete troubleshooting and wrap this up tomorrow. Here's our (me and my man's) ideas...

1. Drop stirred up tank sediment which may now be clogging my mesh fuel filter. My shop manual indicates I can just blow this out if it's not horribly clogged (which calls for replacement), but manual also indicates clogged fuel filter could result in loss of power (none noted in my case). I'll start here.

2. Damage to a spark plug or spark plug cap from the jolt

3. Small vacuum leak from the jolt (that would be very difficult to find)

4. Sensor malfunction from the jolt (TOS or other?)

5. Power Commander malfunction from the jolt (I have software and cable but no practical experience with tweaking).

I'm hoping for any kind of ideas, experience with a similar issue, expertise, smartass comments, jokes at my expense, or suggestions...

Thanks in advance!

~Sarah
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post #2 of 8 Old 06-27-2009, 01:30 PM
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The idle on your bike is too low. It should be around 1300 or so RPM and that is why it is stalling. The idle screw is on the left side of a bike roughl below where you sit. A Phillips screwdriver will adjust it quickly and likely cure the stalling problems.

I did a poll last year asking people about dropping their bikes compared to their previous bikes. There was no real difference between a Strom being dropped and other bikes being dropped. (I'll try and find the poll for you.)

Don't feel bad about it.

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Here was the thread with the poll. The numbers now show people dropping other bikes more than their Stroms.

https://www.stromtrooper.com/showthread.php?t=11100

..Tom

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Idle adjustment!

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The idle on your bike is too low. It should be around 1300 or so RPM and that is why it is stalling. The idle screw is on the left side of a bike roughl below where you sit. A Phillips screwdriver will adjust it quickly and likely cure the stalling problems.

I did a poll last year asking people about dropping their bikes compared to their previous bikes. There was no real difference between a Strom being dropped and other bikes being dropped. (I'll try and find the poll for you.)

Don't feel bad about it.

..Tom
WOO, I love an easy answer for a starting point on troubleshooting! I forgot to K.I.S.S. I will take care of the idle adjustment this morning and get her out for a spin. Thanks for the advice. I wish I had more closely checked my idle speed in the past to be confident of it's "normal" point. My only issue so far was a leaky gasket in the bolt to get to the valves ($2 and 10 minute fix), haven't done anything else to it aside from safety inspections and swapping my brakes/chain/sprockets out.

I liked your poll, thanks for sharing. I have dropped all my bikes at least once (dropped my 1400cc cruiser twice, damnit), I always figured it was just something that can happen. I tend to drop mine only with a large audience. :blushing: Too bad they don't make touch-up paint for pride...

Thank you for the reply, I appreciate it.

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I have dropped my Strom three times since getting it.

The first was exactly one year after getting it while moving it around in the garage. It fell on the left side.

The second was on a ride down to the tail fo the Dragon. While riding down the Blue Ridge Parkway in heavy fog I decided to pull off at a rest area to adjust something. While crossing the road to get to it a Pickup truck came out of the fog, no lights on, doing what seemed like 50 mph and just missed me. I stopped in the rest are fine and went to put down my side stand. I didn't see the pothole under the sidestand and the bike fell on me, again on the left side. Dumb!

The most embarrassing, though, was after a run though the Tail of the Dragon. I was pretty pumped and at the end of the run out had stopped at the rest area where everyone stops. There were probably about 50 bikes there. When I pulled in to stop I noticed the pavement on the lot ended and turned to gravel. I stopped just in front of the gravel. So I thought “take it easy when I leave as I’ll being doing a 180 on the gravel.” As I went to take off I thought about the gravel and started letting the clutch out gentle and as I did it I stalled it as I had stopped it in second gear. I dumped it on the right side in front of al the people.. real embarrassing!

Just for reference, I’m 6’2” and around the 240 lb mark. I don’t think dropping the bike is a “girl” thing!

..Tom

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I have dropped my Strom three times since getting it.

Just for reference, I’m 6’2” and around the 240 lb mark. I don’t think dropping the bike is a “girl” thing!


..Tom
Thanks Tom. The idle adjustment seems to have cleared up my trouble, she ran great for the test ride, errands, all around the city and a few twisties today.

Thank you for the anecdotes about your drops. I've had 3 street bikes and dropped each of them, similar circumstances to yours. I figured it was just a matter of time with the weestrom... at least I logged 850 miles in 3 weeks before I dropped her.

Thanks again, I'll post if my issue returns. Wonder if my idle screw got jostled in the drop?

~Sarah
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And if it makes you feel better, I dropped my wee the second day I had it. I stopped over at a friend's, put down the kick stand, and leaned it over just like I always did with my old enduro, not realizing the kickstand is a little less forgiving. And it leaned over, then kept on going. I ended up breaking a turn signal and scuffing the bar weight and mirror. The weird part is that I don't even remember picking it back up, I was so pissed off. My friend said I just lifted it back up by the handlebars like it was a bicycle.

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Whoever posted "yes because you're a girl..."

funny boy!!
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