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post #1 of 21 Old 05-12-2009, 09:40 PM Thread Starter
 
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Clean Chain with Camp Stove Fuel?

So, I am thinking through all of the riding I will do this summer -- trying to keep my gear to a minimum.

This might sound like a crazy question, but ... could I keep the kerosene at home and use my white gas fuel for my camp stove to clean my chain? It seems to me that the biggest consideration is if it will degrade the O-rings or not?

Any thoughts?
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So, I am thinking through all of the riding I will do this summer -- trying to keep my gear to a minimum.

This might sound like a crazy question, but ... could I keep the kerosene at home and use my white gas fuel for my camp stove to clean my chain? It seems to me that the biggest consideration is if it will degrade the O-rings or not?

Any thoughts?
Hi, what about getting a Coleman multi fuel stove, like the Exponent, that has a Kerosene jet, then you are a winner both ways. I have no comment on using white fuel on the chain, so I will leave that for someone else.

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So, I am thinking through all of the riding I will do this summer -- trying to keep my gear to a minimum.

This might sound like a crazy question, but ... could I keep the kerosene at home and use my white gas fuel for my camp stove to clean my chain? It seems to me that the biggest consideration is if it will degrade the O-rings or not?

Any thoughts?
you dont need to clean you chain when traveling unless your going thousands of miles , i use my chain lube to clean the chain . your canadian so lordco sells castrol chain lube for about 6 bucks , when i travel i take a can with me , then i also take the oldest tee shirts and under wear i own , when you old tees are dirty , spray the chain with your chain lube and use you dirty tee to clean it , add a bit more lube and go , pluss your not packing dirty clothes after you chuck the dirty ones . also white gas sucks . go buy a propane/ butane stove [ 40 bucks at homehardwear] , white gas is from the past , viabrations from the bike can cause that stuff to leak and ruin a trip . when i visited smithers i slept in the park west of town . got woke up by a coyote sniffing me

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you dont need to clean you chain when traveling unless your going thousands of miles , i use my chain lube to clean the chain . your canadian so lordco sells castrol chain lube for about 6 bucks , when i travel i take a can with me , then i also take the oldest tee shirts and under wear i own , when you old tees are dirty , spray the chain with your chain lube and use you dirty tee to clean it , add a bit more lube and go , pluss your not packing dirty clothes after you chuck the dirty ones . also white gas sucks . go buy a propane/ butane stove [ 40 bucks at homehardwear] , white gas is from the past , viabrations from the bike can cause that stuff to leak and ruin a trip . when i visited smithers i slept in the park west of town . got woke up by a coyote sniffing me
It all depends on your own trip I guess, I would need a trailer of tshirts for the amount I will be doing. Also, white fuel is not out of date, you will find that white fuel is better because at least with a multi fuel stove, when there is no fuel around you can use unleaded fuel from the bike. That is the space saver and sometimes gas bottles cannot be found.

I have carried my Exponent stove and a MSI bottle of white fuel around Australia and part way around America over some pretty bad roads as well. It has never leaked fuel anywhere.

I have not cleaned my chain yet either, I have a chain oiler which seems to do the trick although the sprockets collect gunk

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The gasoline method that you're talking about may get past the o-rings (or what is left with them) and dissolve/wash out the lube that is inside your chain (held in by the o-rings).
You can get a chain good and clean, but she may not last...






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The gasoline method that you're talking about may get past the o-rings (or what is left with them) and dissolve/wash out the lube that is inside your chain (held in by the o-rings).
You can get a chain good and clean, but she may not last...






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+1. White gas would act as a solvent where kerosine can clean without eating up the o-rings. Don't do it.

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You know...
...depending on your methods...
...you may be able to get enough 'dribble' of diesel fuel out of a nozzle or three at a truck stop and clean it right there and dispose of it right there in the garbage.

An old toothbrush in a ziploc bag in your kit, a rinsed out paper coffee cup, a bit of free diesel and you're off...







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From "LW" : "Interesting article, I checked my Ducati service manual and this is what they have to say:

Washing the chain
Chains with O-rings must be washed in petroleum, diesel fuel or paraffin oil. Do not use fuel, trichloroethylene or other solvents which will damage the rubber O-rings. Use only sprays which specify that they are for use with O-ring chains.

From "H.J.": Some people think camp stove fuel is a safe cleaner because they think it is a form of kerosene, but it's really a form of gasoline (used to be called "white gas" and was safe for cooking because it didn't contain lead and other motor additives). Probably the most flammable liquid anyone is going to have around the house.

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At home I've been using dilute dish soap - Dawn, to be specific, with a "Grunge Brush" to clean the chain. For travel, you could take a very small bottle (from REI, for example) with some dish soap and the old toothbrush mentioned above. Also, dish soap works better than comercial hand cleaners like go-jo, for cleaning up greasy hands and such. I use the Dupont Teflon Multi-lube, which cleans and lubes the chain. 21,000 miles on the stock chain, almost no stretch. Looks like I've got at least another 10,000 miles using this method.

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