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post #1 of 27 Old 06-27-2017, 02:20 PM Thread Starter
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2012 DL650 Starter Issue

Hi Everyone,

So I have been having a starting problem recently. Let me give you some background on what is going on. I bought my bike used earlier this year kept in great condition and only had 4K miles. Since then I have bulked up the bike for going offroad and have been riding a lot in the sand/swaps of south Florida it has been a blast. About a month ago I decided to wire up a usb charger and voltmeter on my dash. I did this lazily dragging wires along left side of frame without taking off tank. Got it wired up and then was just pulling the fuze on the small box I wired it up with to until I put in a relay. A couple of times I forgot to pull the fuze but the battery didn't drain too far. One time the after sitting for 4 days with volt meter on batter drained to like 12.4-.5 and this is where the problem starts. Tried to start bike all I hear is clicking from starter relay. Pull battery and charge overnight. Next day fully charged battery but still only clicking. I push start and bike fires right up. After this problem is intermittent and I never reattach my wiring to isolate that variable. So on and off the bike will either start or not and click. I have since replaced the battery (was stock so I figured was about time anyways) but the clicking happens even with more than 12.6V, voltage measured at starter relay mirrors that of battery. I do get a dimming of my headlights with the starter button press. I have not found a pattern to the issue it will happen on cold bike or when I have just stopped for 5 mins / accidentally shifted to first with stand down. Started will also variably spin or not and click once the motor is running... I think I may have heard a pop that was louder than the clicking on attempting to start once but have never recreated with seat off. Rolling forward/back in gear does not fix problem once the starter is not functioning.

Based on all this I thought maybe a bad ground? Or possibly a loose connection from when I dragged wires? I really don't think it would be my starter motor as my bike has only 6K miles. I wanted to check the engine ground connection to the motor but I do not have my manual and dont know where that is or how to access it. What do ya'll think?

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post #2 of 27 Old 06-27-2017, 02:45 PM
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A marginal ground is one thing that would fit the symptoms. Either end of any of the large battery wires may be the culprit as well as the starter relay itself. There are the battery terminals, the starter relay terminals, the starter motor connection and the engine case ground connection. The case ground is on the right side of the engine case from the perspective of the rider. Look at the round clutch cover on that side of the engine like it was a clock face. The ground wire is on the engine case just outside of the clutch cover at the 9 o'clock position nearly hidden by the frame.

You could try shorting together the two large screw posts on the starter relay but watch out for sparks. If that always starts things right up, replace the starter relay. If things are no different from pushing the start button, check the cable connections.

BTW, the headlights don't dim when pressing the start button on any Strom since 2005. A bypass switch on all 2005 and later models cuts power to the headlights completely. Push the start button and the headlights go out.

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thanks for the reply. Ima go get her outa the garage and will report back after trouble shooting.
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okay so just got back. Battery with key off = 12.8V. Key on engine off battery = 12.3 and starter relay is 12.3. Checked all wire connections (battery terminals, starter relay bolts, starter motor and motor ground) all were tight and looked normal. Shorted the starter relay with screw driver and small amount of sparks but no start or click but the red dash light and oil signal turn off.

Not sure where to go from here...stater motor?
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It could be as simple as a bad battery. Try jump starting the bike from a car battery, car not running. With a good battery, shorting the starter relay will spark merrily.

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When you checked the cable connections did you take them off and inspect/clean or just make sure they were tight? Electrical connections can look ok and feel tight but still have too much resistance between the contact points.
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It could be as simple as a bad battery. Try jump starting the bike from a car battery, car not running. With a good battery, shorting the starter relay will spark merrily.


Okay I can try that but I just got a new battery and tried it with both new and old and the voltage and results were the same.


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I forgot about that. Looking at or even wiggling the connections isn't good enough, as Wingstrom mentioned.

Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. I didn't quite make it to 17,000 miles on the 2012 DL650A.
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Okay will try cleaning all aforementioned conncections
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If cleaning and tightening all 6 connections and jumping from a car battery doesn't do the trick, the only thing left is the starter motor.

Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. I didn't quite make it to 17,000 miles on the 2012 DL650A.
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