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post #1 of 26 Old 03-09-2006, 07:46 AM Thread Starter
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Early oil change

I've been reading some posts about some people doing an oil change before 1st service. Well I decided to go ahead and do it. I had some extra Mejier brand sitting in the garage and I also put about 1/3 qt. of Lucas Oil Stabilizer to make up for the "cheapy" oil. Been doing some research on the Lucas products and have read nothing but good. I also put some in my truck as well.

I have 130 miles on my Wee right now and am planning a trip to So. KY at the end of the month and don't know if I'll have enough miles on it for 1st service before we leave. I'm going to try and put as many more break-in miles on it before we leave to seat things in better.

Any thoughts on early oil changes? The thought of all those little metal particles running around in the oil was driving me a little crazy :?

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post #2 of 26 Old 03-09-2006, 07:51 AM Thread Starter
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oil filters

I forgot to mention that for those of you not wanting to shell out $13 or whatever from Suzuki for one. Walmart carries a Fram PH6018 and is specified for the DL650. It was $6.84 + tax. My Eiger quad takes the same filter, so now I can get two for one! 8)

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If you follow the train of thought, and I do, that you should break your bike in by riding it hard then doing an early oil change is a must. I really do believe that most of the metal shaving will occur within the first 100 miles and having all of that debris inside your engine is NOT a good thing. Regardless, other then some $$ spent on new oil and filter what do you stand to loose?

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If you follow the train of thought, and I do, that you should break your bike in by riding it hard then doing an early oil change is a must. I really do believe that most of the metal shaving will occur within the first 100 miles and having all of that debris inside your engine is NOT a good thing. Regardless, other then some $$ spent on new oil and filter what do you stand to loose?

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I agree VERY much!! I would never use cheap oil or filters...at least use a good dino oil. I know that there are other filter options, but I will ALWAYS use the OEM filters. I ran Castrol in mine the first 2 changes, then switched over to Mobil 1 15W50 full syn. I did the first oil change around 150 miles.

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post #5 of 26 Old 03-09-2006, 11:49 AM
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while i understand this train of thought, i am left wondering why suzuki does not recommend doing this, as it would definately increase their dealer profits?
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I'm sure if Suzuki DID recommend it, it would probably turn off money conciouspeople and ultimately hurt sales. :?

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Hey BigB!

I mostly agree with you on OEM filters, especially on bikes. I've been using Frams on my cars and trucks for years to no ill effect, though.

I'm not running to the Dodge dealer to get a filter every time I want to change oil in my Dakota. I have no idea what they cost, but you know it's more than a Fram from Wallyworld.

The main reason I used a Fram on this 1st change was because I know I'm only going to put 4-500 miles on it. When I bought my bike, I also purchased what they call a Honda Pit Pass at Dreyer Honda in Indy. All my scheduled maintenance is "free". So I know for 3 yrs. i'll have OEM Suzuki filters put in it. Plus they guarantee I can get my bike in within 24hrs of calling and have it back in 48hrs.

Time will tell if I wasted my money on the Pass or not, but at least I don't have to worry about not getting it in for service because of short funds or something. Thanks for your input! :wink:

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I changed my oil & filter at 100 miles, then at 500. The first was store brand dyno and the second was Mobil-1 15w-50. I did the same thing on my K5 and there were quite a few metal bits on the drain plug. The K6 has just left a bit of metallic "dust" on the plug. I get Wix filters at O'Reilly for about $8.

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Hey BigB!

I mostly agree with you on OEM filters, especially on bikes. I've been using Frams on my cars and trucks for years to no ill effect, though.

I'm not running to the Dodge dealer to get a filter every time I want to change oil in my Dakota. I have no idea what they cost, but you know it's more than a Fram from Wallyworld.

The main reason I used a Fram on this 1st change was because I know I'm only going to put 4-500 miles on it. When I bought my bike, I also purchased what they call a Honda Pit Pass at Dreyer Honda in Indy. All my scheduled maintenance is "free". So I know for 3 yrs. i'll have OEM Suzuki filters put in it. Plus they guarantee I can get my bike in within 24hrs of calling and have it back in 48hrs.

Time will tell if I wasted my money on the Pass or not, but at least I don't have to worry about not getting it in for service because of short funds or something. Thanks for your input! :wink:
Very good and valid points, but.....what works good in cars/trucks may not be up to par for bikes. How does the back pressure relief system measure up to the OEM filters? Also, aren't you a little worried that if you DID actually have an engine issue under warranty, that the dealer would really give you hell for using aftermarket filters while under warranty? They may even go so far as to "try" and void your warranty for using a non recomended filter. Sounds like you have a pretty cool dealer though. :wink: Suzuki is known for having pretty high quality oil and air filters for their bikes. I rarely look at price... I just buy it if it is good stuff.

Do you plan on doing much maint yourself, or will this "pitpass" cover it all? You must REALLY have a trustworthy dealer.... I would let few dealers touch my bike for anything. Good luck and enjoy that bike!

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We are heading from Indy taking 421to Frankfort or Georgetown to spend the night, then plan on meandering toward Maysville via 62 or 68 possibly some other routes we've looked at on the map. Any suggestions on some goods roads in the area that you're aware of? If you live around that area let me know and maybe we could hook. There will be 4 bikes on this trip. Thanks for the response!

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