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post #1 of 38 Old 03-08-2006, 12:22 AM
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DL1000 fix: new ecm

Hey yall, looks like Suzuki has come up with a fix for the hesitation, stumble, coughing, backfire.. It is a new ECM. so if you have a bike that is still under warranty, take it by the shop and they will fix it,, if you havent already done the yosh box reprogram..
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Not that I am suspisious, but where did you get this information? Just so I can tell the dealer where to look. I wonder how this would be economical for suzuki. To reprogram just takes a few minutes and to change the ECM I suspect takes more time. Anyway if you can think of where you heard or read this let us know.
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New ECM for DL1000

Here's a thread on the forum dealing with the problem:

https://stromtrooper.com/forum/viewto...t=ecm&start=15

Don't pay money for a warranty issue. Replacing the ECM cost me 10 minutes at the shop with no money spent.

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Re: DL1000 fix: new ecm

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Hey yall, looks like Suzuki has come up with a fix for the hesitation, stumble, coughing, backfire.. It is a new ECM. so if you have a bike that is still under warranty, take it by the shop and they will fix it,, if you havent already done the yosh box reprogram..
Is this a recall? I used the YOSH box on my '05 but i'm still not that happy with it. Will my using the YOSH void any warranty work :shock: :!: I guess I should ask my local dealer about it :?

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Hey yall, looks like Suzuki has come up with a fix for the hesitation, stumble, coughing, backfire.. It is a new ECM. so if you have a bike that is still under warranty, take it by the shop and they will fix it,, if you havent already done the yosh box reprogram..
Is this a recall? I used the YOSH box on my '05 but i'm still not that happy with it. Will my using the YOSH void any warranty work :shock: :!: I guess I should ask my local dealer about it :?
You sure it was done right? Also...are your throttle bodies in sync? You are the "first" person that I have heard of, who wasn't happy with the results. What were the settings that you or the dealer used? I am just curious! :wink:

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Hey yall, looks like Suzuki has come up with a fix for the hesitation, stumble, coughing, backfire.. It is a new ECM. so if you have a bike that is still under warranty, take it by the shop and they will fix it,, if you havent already done the yosh box reprogram..
Is this a recall? I used the YOSH box on my '05 but i'm still not that happy with it. Will my using the YOSH void any warranty work :shock: :!: I guess I should ask my local dealer about it :?
You sure it was done right? Also...are your throttle bodies in sync? You are the "first" person that I have heard of, who wasn't happy with the results. What were the settings that you or the dealer used? I am just curious! :wink:
Dealer did the TB sync. I did the YOSH box. What I don't like is the fact that I went from 47-49mpg to 35-39mpg :shock:.
My local dealer wants my bike for a few days to check things out. They want to look at the fuel level sending unit as well. It has been acting up on me too.

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Hey guys, I dont think its a recall. It is however covered under warranty so it will not cost you any money. I dont know about the warranty being voided by using the yosh box yourself. The ECM is what the 06's have in them. Just take your bikes in and get it done..
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Dealer did the TB sync. I did the YOSH box. What I don't like is the fact that I went from 47-49mpg to 35-39mpg .
My local dealer wants my bike for a few days to check things out. They want to look at the fuel level sending unit as well. It has been acting up on me too.
Very strange indeed.... I am getting in the mid to high 40's consistently! I actually remapped a little higher than most. The dealer did 1.5% at idle and 5% at BOTH mid and high range. I pulled the plugs recently and they looked great. Keep us posted with your findings! With these new pipes, she runs like a scalded dog now! I rechecked my TB synch after the pipe install...they were still dead on. :wink:

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Hey guys, I dont think its a recall. It is however covered under warranty so it will not cost you any money. I dont know about the warranty being voided by using the yosh box yourself. The ECM is what the 06's have in them. Just take your bikes in and get it done..
That is really great news, but.....all bikes STILL run too lean from the factory regardless of their ECM. They still have to meet the strict emissions standards, a good tweaking of the FI makes it spot on!

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MPG is the problem with a Yosh or Tika map change as they add fuel over a larger area... The NEW ECU will have a properly designed efficient map with changes in fuel and probably TIMING. Something the Yosh and Tika box can not do.

The map in the new ECU is done with a lot more precision than just dumping fuel. Having your MPG go from 47 to 35 is BS! Even 45 to 40 is not acceptable to me.

I will zero out my Tika changes and get the new ECU. THEN if it's still lean I will make some adjustments.

If we had access to the equipment the factory has we could make the bike run correctly AND get MPG. Like the 650.

I think it's silly if you can get a new ECU for FREE not to. Mine has the Tika "fix" but at a sizable cost at the pump.

I would LOVE to see a dyno of a stock 05 and a stock 06 DL1000 and a few riders reports who have ridden both. A MPG comparison and a trip report would tell.

If the new map kills the midrange than the TIKA or Yosh for to the old ECU maybe better... But I think the new ECU is the better fix than the band aid to the 0ld ECU's

Not that the yosh and Tika changes don't work. But is it the BEST fix?

My guess with a gas analyzer, a dyno, and a few million $s of equipment can make a better map than a $500 box and a few trys to get a setting that feels ok by only changing the fuel. CLick click yep that should do it. MMMmmm what's that gas smell?

A mapped correctly bike will get better MPG not worse. If it drops 3-5 mpg it's wrong IMHO.

Both my remapped car and truck get better power AND MPG. By relieving the lean run condition the power went up so less throttle is needed. (unless you put you foot into it.)

Summery... If you CAN get the new ECU for FREE under warranty do it!

If you can't than live with the yosh solution and try not to be to heavy handed when adding fuel when you do it, less can be more.
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