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post #1 of 17 Old 05-24-2017, 01:18 PM Thread Starter
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Thoughts on batteries, AGM vs Lithium, etc.

So, are the newer lithium batteries worth the extra money? I see the stock Yuasa for about $60-$70 while some lithium batteries are down to the $70-$80 price range. I live in SoCal so harsh winters aren't an issue and I've never really had any issues with conventional batteries but the marketing blather claims longer service life for Lithium batteries (more cycles).

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I'm partial to AGM batteries, they don't need to be mounted top up like a regular lead acid but still have the same CCA, I'm hesitant to use Li batteries till they are proven for cold weather applications
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Pluses and minuses. I use mainly Lithium batteries so I will go to one if the LA fails. It weighs over 5 lbs. less and is smaller. The latest Li do have to be "woke up" in very cold climates. No big deal once you understand them. They do need to add a safeguard to prevent over-discharging the Li (and causing permanent damage) if they have not yet. Very little discharge sitting over time.


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Got my 011 650 new in 012 for the DeadHorse trip.It sat for seven months with a bad hub but did start it around every two weeks.It has over 55,000 now.Worse thing was sator going out but was near the dealer and made it to front door but not enough juice to even make a racket.It blew a fuse from a bad wire to a added plug in another time and ran flat but battery came back and never failed other than those two power draws.Even in single temps as I ride all year.The only other bike with more miles was my 01 1500 Nomad that had the factory one at over 82,000 miles with o times not starting even with more single temps starts from a unheated barn on it all so.But this was in less than four years were as the 650 is a 011 with same one still on it.My Harleys went through more and my big RoadStars seem about the same as three years about it.
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Lithium for me in the tropics ...I used to go through a lead acid every year.
But LA in Ontario - I get 4 year or more from a $80 battery ....
Shorai has a 3 year warranty the cranking is amazing but the price is high and you can destroy them.


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I fitted a (SSB) Lithium into my MT09/FZ09, here in OZ a AGM would have cost half the price.

The LI had 12 months warranty and it lasted 16 months

But the worst part was when the battery failed the bike would not run properly, it coughed and spluttered and would continually stall, I ended up having to trailer the bike home.

The battery is like a big sponge and it absorbs electrical spikes so ridding with a bad battery is never a good idea but when my LI failed it was unable to absorb anything, a lead battery would have done a better job of getting me home so no LI's for me anymore.

PS; I have a LI in my WR450f that is 14 months old and works well at this point in time.

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I'm still running the original battery in my 2010 DL650 but lately there is usually a hesitation when I first push the button. My very old meter showed 16 volts which I doubt. I think I should throw it away.

Best to change the battery before it lets me down so do you think I should just buy another Yuasa YTX12-BS or try one of these new lithium's? I'm thinking of longer life in a hot environment. Surely a 12 volt battery is a 12 volt battery and any 12 volt motorcycle battery that fits in the existing box will work - so why are there so many of the damn things? I've also found that for some reason the original battery often lasts longer than any replacement.

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I just got a new battery from Auto Zone to replace the 7 year old Wal Mart Everstart. Wally World is a lot less expensive now that I checked it. I got the battery and them pulled the old one.
I always do things backassward.
I had run that battery flat several times but it always seemed to recover and continue to work.
I'm hoping to get similar life from the new one...Hah!
The Old Wally battery was still working but beginning to show signs of impending failure.
The Wally batt may be older than 7 years too. It was in the bike when I bought it.
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The PO of my 2013 650 installed a lithium battery. I rode with it for about a year before I even noticed it.

The only reason I did finally realize that it was a Li battery was because when it finally got "cold" here in the Bay Area (probably about mid 40's to 50 deg F) the bike seemed to crank slow. I replaced it with a new Yuasa AGM and the cranking speed was back to normal.

Yes the Li battery was crazy lightweight compared to the AGM, but the only time I noticed it was removing and installing. The few pounds of weight savings is imperceptible to the ride, especially considering all of the other crap I have on the bike. Like most farkles, I think there's a large placebo effect.

I will say that being able to notice the difference in cranking speed at such a mild "cool" temperature between the batteries convinced me to stick with lead/AGM.

For what it's worth, they both metered at good voltages at rest, I don't remember what the exact figures were, but I remember​ checking and not having any voltage difference between the two batteries and being surprised by that, considering the difference in cranking speed.

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