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post #1 of 20 Old 10-01-2005, 07:35 PM Thread Starter
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Oil Filter Changing Fun - Not

Oil changes are easy and changing the filter is also very easy. Most of the time. As we all know, the factory says to really crank on the filter - two turns after "contact" and there are lots of threads about wrenches to do the job. Of course, I have been following those directions like a good boy.

This time, as I was removing the oil filter (an "EMGO" - what the dealer had and promised was perfect for the job..) I put on my filter wrench (from Cycle Gear - fits perfectly) and start to unscrew. It takes a little force but starts to move. After several revolutions, I determine that I am not getting anywhere. The "can" of the filter body is moving inside of the flange of the spin-on mounting plate!

To make a long story short and spare the innocent of my feelings, I bought a big (18") Stilson wrench - also known as a pipe or monkey wrench. Quite unsophisticated - and cheap. The flange of the filter is slightly larger that the mounting surface (yay!) and after removing the oil pressure sender for clearance, the big wrench can fit in and get a good grip on the flange. It gets the good grip by digging into the flange so I had to be careful not to get a grip in the engine! After a fraction of a turn, I could resort to turning the body of the filter with the regular wrench. I am really glad I didn't have to resort to some sort of mayhem like detroying the filter to get to the mounting plate from the inside.

The rest of the oil change went without incident.

So if this happens to you - don't panic or go the the dealer that sold you the shitty filter (that day), just get some old fashioned tools and have at it.

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post #2 of 20 Old 10-01-2005, 11:25 PM
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If you used the factory filters and the suzuki oil filter wrench/tool, your oil changes would be done in an instant!!
post #3 of 20 Old 10-04-2005, 01:51 PM
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I guess it is possible that you got a bad filter but I have used Emgos with good results on multiple bikes and 100s of thousands of miles so I don't think it's the brand.
 
post #4 of 20 Old 10-08-2005, 06:17 PM
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I tend to agree with Bobb_Todd. I have used EMGO filters for a while now and have never had an issue.
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post #5 of 20 Old 05-22-2006, 10:34 PM
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My .02 cents on this is only tighten a genuine Suzuki oil filter two full turns, after initial contact. Tighten all other filters two bare hands tight only.
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post #6 of 20 Old 05-23-2006, 12:54 AM
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Can't agree with that statement. If the aftermarket filters are used go with the 2 turns as recommended by Suzuki. At my first service at the dealer I watched the fellow put on an aftermarket filter and tighten it by hand. When I did the next change myself I got a surprise. The filter was loose enough to take off with fingertips only. Why it didn't leak is beyond me. I put the new filter on 2 turns. The o-ring has to be compressed enough to seal securely..

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post #7 of 20 Old 05-23-2006, 02:01 AM
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I've probably changed 500 spin-on oil filters in my lifetime, on cars, motorcycles, airplanes, what have you. On every single one, I've generally adhered to the rule of getting the filter on as tight as you can with your bare hands. I've never had one loosen, leak, or give me any undue amount of trouble getting off later.

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post #8 of 20 Old 05-23-2006, 02:30 AM
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Been there, done that and it works great. #501 leaked and almost cost me the price off an engine. After that I changed my method a bit.

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When I first checked Suzuki's recommendation on filter tightening in users manual I also was pretty much surprised! :shock: This method of tightening the oil filter with 2 full turns is quite uncommon in vehicle's world or at least I have never heard it.
Does anybody have an idea what is the reason behind? I can only think on the heat-expansion due to the design and light alloy material of the engine block. I mean if you use the same size filter on a car it is not specified to tighten other than the good old way with hands.
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post #10 of 20 Old 05-23-2006, 07:46 AM
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I believe it has to do with the type of gasket on the filter. A round o-ring type requires more pressure to seat properly because it has to flatten somewhat. A flat suface only requires about 3/4 of a turn to seal.
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