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post #1 of 18 Old 06-08-2005, 09:51 PM
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Filter or not to filter?

Hey everyone... just hit a little over 1000k on my Strom. Did first oil change with filter at 280 miles and filled with Castrol start up 10W40. I just bought some Mobil 1 15W50 Full syn and was debating whether or not to change the oil filter as well. I was going to take it off and let it drain out as best as I could. The first change had absolutley no signs of metal particles or shavings, everything looked really good. Just wanna get some input from some of you on your thoughts about the filter change. The manual says to keep it on, I would change it for sure if I had seen any metal on the oil plug. Thanks for your input!!
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Hey everyone... just hit a little over 1000k on my Strom. Did first oil change with filter at 280 miles and filled with Castrol start up 10W40. I just bought some Mobil 1 15W50 Full syn and was debating whether or not to change the oil filter as well. I was going to take it off and let it drain out as best as I could. The first change had absolutley no signs of metal particles or shavings, everything looked really good. Just wanna get some input from some of you on your thoughts about the filter change. The manual says to keep it on, I would change it for sure if I had seen any metal on the oil plug. Thanks for your input!!
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being that you are changing to mobile one i think i would change the filter as well. you would be ok if you decide not to as mobile one is compatable with all other oils. i went to amsoil at my first oil change as i am an amsoil dealer. i changed the filter as well and now will change the filter every other oil change. just my opinion. hope this helps

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post #3 of 18 Old 06-08-2005, 11:37 PM
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Filters are cheap, engines aren't.

I change the filter everytime I change the oil.

I'd be extra sure the change the filter with the first change. In my case I did have metal in the oil. I bet if you took the filter apart you'd find some metal.

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post #4 of 18 Old 06-08-2005, 11:48 PM
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I did change the filter on the first oil change, oil that drained out looked really clean as well as the oil plug. I will go with my first instinct and get a new filter 2morrow!! Wonder why Suzuki says to not change it at the second oil change?
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Glad to hear you decided to change the filter too, while I was training as a mechanic many years ago I was told "Never put clean oil through a dirty filter!". I have lived by that simple rule ever since, and I have no doubt it has helped my cars and bikes live happier and longer lives. For the sake of a few dollars, it gives me peace of mind.

My owners maunual says to change the filter at 1000km (600miles), and then not again until 18000km (11000miles)! Not likely I would leave it that long!

I think the reason manufacturers do this is to make the running costs of their particular bike or car appear lower in comparison to other brands, which is obviously attractive to the beancounters when selecting which vehicle to buy for their company fleets.

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In fact sometimes I change the filter only, and not the oil. The filter is a big can used to hold dirt and clean the oil. That should be the first thing to go.
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post #7 of 18 Old 06-10-2005, 09:58 AM
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Glad to hear you decided to change the filter too, while I was training as a mechanic many years ago I was told "Never put clean oil through a dirty filter!". .
Looking thru the service manual, there is still 4/10's of a quart of old oil in the engine when you do a oil and filter change, so on a 650 V-Strom, you would have to tear down the motor to get all the old oil out.

Oil change 2.4 qts.
oil and filter change 2.9 qts.
overhaul 3.3 qts.

My 2 cents worth is filter on first change, then filter on every other change, even though Suzuki says it can go to the 3rd change, I'll just do it every other one.

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post #8 of 18 Old 06-10-2005, 01:10 PM
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I changed oil and filter yesterday, this time I added exactley 2900ml just like the manual said. The oil level was dead nuts on the full line. I used Mobil 1 15W50 full syn, and I noticed a signifigant decrease in engine noise...not that I had much before, and the shifting is smoother especially from 1st to 2nd. :wink: I am breaking my engine in "almost" riding it like I normally do, just no red line revs and adjust rpm levels when cruising. No metal or shavings at all in any oil changes. Matter of fact, the oil looked really good, hated to throw it out.
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Looking thru the service manual, there is still 4/10's of a quart of old oil in the engine when you do a oil and filter change, so on a 650 V-Strom, you would have to tear down the motor to get all the old oil out.

Oil change 2.4 qts.
oil and filter change 2.9 qts.
overhaul 3.3 qts.
If you drain the oil cooler during the oil change, you'll find much of the extra oil.
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Re: Filter or not to filter?

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Did first oil change with filter at 280 miles and filled with Castrol start up 10W40.
For some bizarre reason I read "10W40" as "WD40" at which point I thought "he did WHAT!?!?" :shock: :lol:
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