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post #1 of 15 Old 01-12-2013, 12:21 AM Thread Starter
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Temperature readout addition

Lately, I've been a bit concerned about the stock temperature indicators(fat bars) whcih don't provideas specific of a temp readout that I would like. I did a quick internet search for a motorcycle kit and found one on an ATV forum site that was offered by one the DIY type guys but it was date from '06 and he was offering only 70 units. It was a unit that had a hard anodized aluminum tee that installed on the coolant return line from the engine. The sensor was mounted in the tee and used an analog readout gauge that you mount wherever you want. Installing the tee only involved cutting a short section of hose and insterting the tee, splicing into a hot-when -on source(with relay), and you're done. Any vendors here make such a kit?

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The only problem with reading the actual temp is that it may be frightening. The Wee's seem to be happy with 2-3 bars and a lot of folks get real serious about it. One doesn't read about too many high temp readings. I'd be concerned if the bike started to read in the upper range.
On the old Air Cooled BMW's everything would be fine until someone got a dip stick temp gauge and then find out how hot the oil really was. Actually even though it was seemingly hot enough to boil lead the oil and the engine design were adequate to deal with it.
I like the idea though. But even the gauge in my 4Runner is a sliding needle.
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The DL1000's fan turns on at approximately 105 degrees C and turns off at about 100 degrees C. Three bars show on the gauge from 100C to 111C.

On the DL650 the fan turns on at ~98C and off at ~92C and shows three bars from 80C to 111C. That's why it is normal for the DL1000 to show two bars but go to three on hot days at slow speeds while the DL650 shows three bars but goes to two at speed on cold days or cool rainy days.

I don't know what you intend to do with more information than that.

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its not the absolute temp that matters - its the change from normal

watch your bars and get a feeling for its "normal" behavior.

then when a bar goes towards the roof - you will know something is amiss.
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I really doubt you'll notice a difference if a 4th bar pops up. If it happens though. something is wrong. It usually means the fan isn't working, coolant has been lost, the thermostat is stuck or the sensor is malfunctioning.

Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. I didn't quite make it to 17,000 miles on the 2012 DL650A.
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The DL1000's fan turns on at approximately 105 degrees C and turns off at about 100 degrees C. Three bars show on the gauge from 100C to 111C.

On the DL650 the fan turns on at ~98C and off at ~92C and shows three bars from 80C to 111C. That's why it is normal for the DL1000 to show two bars but go to three on hot days at slow speeds while the DL650 shows three bars but goes to two at speed on cold days or cool rainy days.

I don't know what you intend to do with more information than that.
From what you've described Pat, it appears that my temp bars are working accurately. However, being the persnickety sort that I be, having a read-only analog gauge appeals to me as a way to see the actual temp....and see how the temp varies. I monitor my gauges closely...along with my mirrors.

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However, being the persnickety sort that I be, having a read-only analog gauge appeals to me as a way to see the actual temp....and see how the temp varies. I monitor my gauges closely...along with my mirrors.
Have you a voltage meter? Although not as life threatening to the bike as temperature, low voltage can leave you stranded.
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I would think that oil temperature would be a better indication as the Wee's oil cooler is air cooled with no method of controlling it from a hot or cold climate. Too cold oil is as bad for an engine as too hot oil from what I remember from my days as a lad tuning the original & proper mini's in England. There used to be thermostatic kits you could buy then to keep the oil at proper running temps. I have often wondered if a water cooled oil cooler could be retro fitted to a Wee as the Glee has now, definitely the best way.
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We have a lot of 100 degree days in summer down here, I have seen 4
bars a few times waiting at Border Patrol check points, goes back to 2 bars
as soon as moving again. I would be more worred about modification
to install sensor & causing a leak.
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post #10 of 15 Old 02-18-2013, 12:49 PM
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Some things I have noted with the temp bars on my 2010 DL650A.

The bike warms up to give 3 bars then the thermostat opens fully & it drops to 2 bars for a short while (depends on ambient temp how long it takes to get back to 3 the colder it is longer it takes) Then once 3 bars are up mine stays there in all conditions so far (I have riden it from 25F to over 100F) and it has never waivered from 3 bars once it has warmed up fully.

Moved up to Suzuki B-King, nothing much beats me at the lights
Still miss my 2010 White Wee

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