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post #1 of 9 Old 09-28-2006, 06:00 PM
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Tall riders - what is your windscreen solution? (me=6ft 4in)

I am 6'4" and trying to find a solution I am happy with. One option is no windscreen....I get the blast of air in the chest, but at least the helmet is in smooth air. Going the other way, I recently bought the extra tall windscreen from CalSci. I think with that the turbulence is hitting me in the visor...if I try to go visor-up, the wind shuts it half way for me and rattles it around, and with the visor closed it sounds like someone is "playing drums" on the top of my head. I have the Madstad brackets on order to see if that helps. I wonder what others my height have found as a solution. I know part of it is personal preference...like is the goal to get the wind off the chest but have the helmet in in the wind, or try to get the entire rider in the pocket for visor-up riding on the freeway. I am beginning to think that for a tall rider the reality is the helmet is in the wind, so maybe a shorter windscreen will be a beter solution.

What are you happy with?
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post #2 of 9 Old 09-28-2006, 06:02 PM
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I'm 6'4" as well, and have a 36" inseam. After much research and reading other people's posts, I tried the Windstrom Manta: extra-tall model with the "TS" or Top Spoiler option. I think I hit the proverbial home run.

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After reading other's experiences with various windscreens, I believe this is about the best you could hope for. I'm quite satisfied with this set-up. I have a 3/4 helmet, the HJC CL-33. I ride with my face shield in the up position almost all the time now - and I experience almost no buffeting on the helmet, except in the most windy conditions. Even then, it's not objectionable. I get very little wind in the face and my shield never spontaneously closes or gets blown around.

I do get some buffeting on my shoulders, but what the heck, it is a motorcycle. I have experimented with some pieces of plexiglass by holding them in just to the inside of my mirrors, and it virtually eliminates the buffeting on my shoulders, but then I have a strange low-pitched rumble and my head vibrates in a weird way.

I have ridden extensively without any windscreen whatsoever and this is also a very good option as the clean blast of air is just that - clean. No buffeting whatsoever. If not for bugs, I would be happy with this option. As far as your attempt to block just the air hitting your chest - I don't believe you'll ever be able to achieve this as I tried cutting my stock shield down in many different configurations before deciding it wouldn't work.

I do have the Madstad windshield mount. It's a good product to experiement with different windscreen positions, but in the end, it did not help me as I found the best position for the Manta could be achieved without the Madstad. Also, with a windscreen as tall as the Manta, the Madstad will not under any circumstances keep the windscreen in place no matter how hard you tighten the quick adjustment thumbscrews, so don't even bother with them. Use regular nuts/bolts instead.

Oh, and the Manta is butt-ugly, but I'm not obsessed with aesthetics, so it doesn't bother me. If you were in NY, you could try my bike before buying a windscreen. Let me know if you have any additional questions. It's a big financial commitment, you want to make the right choice the first time.

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I'm 6'5", and very happy with the Madstad and either the stock shield (when it's really hot out..) or the 23" Cee Bailey for longer trips.

I find myself leaving the big shield on all the time now, due to the adjustability of the Madstad bracket. All the way down and approx. halfway tilted back is bliss for me, with faceshield UP....air goes right over my head. Shield more "up" and tilted back more (to give same line of sight) allows MUCH more airflow.

The Cee Bailey is JUST as ugly as the Manta!

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post #5 of 9 Old 09-29-2006, 08:02 PM
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6' 1" for me.

Givi with a MadStad bracket. Move it up and down easily.

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Im 6'6 and 32" inseam. Madstad is all I needed

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I'm 6'2" with a 36" inseam. However, the truly relevant measurement regarding windshields is your line of sight above the top centre of the gas tank. I have the Suzuki Gel Seat. Placing a yard stick on the top of the centre of the gas cap, straight up, with my head level and looking straight forward, my eyes are 21.5 " above the top of the tank. Anyone with a similar measurement should experience the same wind pattern from the same windshield at the same height/slant although your perception of it may be different. This is why solutions to buffeting are so highly individual. :roll: What works for one person may not work for another who is a very similar size.

I found a solution that cost me $5.

I have the stock shield on my DL650 with the Gel Seat. Before the fix, I had significant buffeting starting at about 65 mph and getting worse with increased speed. I replaced the four stock bracket bolts with four 6mm x 50 mm "stove" bolts. This approach only works with the shield in the third or highest position. I put 3/4" spacers on the lower bolts in between the bracket and fairing. This really opens up a larger gap between the bottom of the shield and the front of the fairing and noticeably slopes the shield back towards your head. The mount is just as solid as the stock one. I like this approach better than trying to put spacers under the windshield directly which can stress the plastic and lead to cracks/breakage. I think you can get more slant on the shield this way too.

The result is a very smooth air flow which seems to be striking just above my visor. I always ride with my visor shut and with ear plugs so if you don't, your perception of this fix will be different. But for me, it is just fine. In the hot summer weather, I am still getting a nice cooling breeze on my helmet vents as well as my arms and shoulders. I do not feel the need for any further protection.

If I recall correctly, the air flow on my Wee is now cleaner than the air flow was on my Suzuki Volusia cruiser which had a full size touring windshield.

I put about 6,000 miles on my bike this season so far including a 3 day 900 mile road trip and am totally satisfied with this windshield fix.

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post #8 of 9 Old 10-20-2006, 10:14 PM
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installed 25.5 inch Cee Bailey

Received my 25 inch windscreen from Cee Bailey, here are my initial impressions comparing stock, Suzuki's tall screen and the C-B.

At 6'3" tall the stock screen works best at the lowest mounted position. decent air flow, and no bobble-head action at highway speeds. Raising the stock screen to the top position makes for some buffeting, and serious wind howl. Able to ride the bike at any legal speed at relative comfort. wicking up the throttle beyond legal highway speed did not produce much ill effect.

Suzuki's +3 inch "tall" windscreen. Crappola at any mounting height. The screen is flimsy and vibrates significantly as you approach 50 mph. At 70 mph it practically folded back. I have since contacted Suzuki to warranty or refund my purchase. The angle of the screen does nothing to deflect wind over a tall rider. The curve of the screen has the upper edge leading just at mid-chest height.

25 inch +10 over stock. The key to making this one work is where you sit in relation to the screen. leaning slightly in or sitting back can dramatically change what buffeting if any you encounter. Up to 60 mph I can ride with the visor of my Arai open and enjoy relatively still air. Some air coming around the sides makes my Hi-Vis safety vest flutter. 70-75, not so good. Expereinced some serious buffeting and have to move around in the seat to find some "quieter" air. Feeling quite a bit of wind coming around the sides. 80 mph, heaven. Took it on up to 90 and it performed great. almost as comfortable as cruising at 60 mph.

I think a madstadt fairing mount could get it all dialed-in.

These are my initial impressions after a quick 30 minute ride in a variety of traffic conditions in 74 degree weather.

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post #9 of 9 Old 10-23-2006, 09:01 PM
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So after further experimenting I've come of with a Frankenstein solution that is the best so far. I took my extra-tall CalSci and cut about 4 inches off the top. Then added the standard Laminar Lip to it so the top of the Lip is pretty much flush with the top of the windshield. Then use the Madstad brackets to angle the screen back pretty far in terms of the available range of motion. If I ride visor up on the freeway, I get some wind in the eyes but not much. I do get some wind going over the top of the helmet with its associated wind noise. With the screen angled farther forward the wind on the helmet turns in to buffeting that makes the helmet vibrate like before when I didn't have the Lip.

I haven't tried the Lip on the stock windscreen yet.

I tired the Madstad with the stock screen today....definitely not a solution for me either low or high.
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