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post #1 of 16 Old 09-01-2006, 11:08 PM Thread Starter
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PIAA 510's

Hello Folks,
I want to purchase the Piaa 510's but I can't decide between the crystal ion (yellow) and the super white. Most of my driving is on the highway so far. I want it to look like an aircraft is landing on the highway. Mostly so that I can see the Bambi's from 10 miles away. So my question is....which ones would you buy??? :?:

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post #2 of 16 Old 09-03-2006, 10:18 PM
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i have the superwhite and wouldnt change them for anything

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post #3 of 16 Old 09-03-2006, 10:20 PM
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Piaa 510's

Hi,

I justed wanted to let you know that I have over 5 sets of
Piaa lights in various models.
I do have the 510's.
Make sure that you put the Super White 510's on your bike
they seem to be twice as bright.
Take it from someone who knows PIAA.
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post #4 of 16 Old 09-06-2006, 09:46 PM Thread Starter
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Do I want to go Wide beam or narrow???

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post #5 of 16 Old 09-07-2006, 05:17 AM
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Narrow beams will go way down the road forever but the wide beam will light up the sides of the road better for leaping bambi. My choice would be better and brighter bulbs in the Strom headlites and wide beam driving lites.

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post #6 of 16 Old 09-07-2006, 02:24 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks! I greatly appreciate you experience!

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post #7 of 16 Old 09-07-2006, 04:35 PM
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Tyblaney, most of my experience comes from cages at nite but much of it applies to bikes. The biggest difference on a bike is when you lean it and the light pretty much goes away in the direction of your turn when low beam is on. Have Silverstars in the Wee but actually have ridden it at nite since installing them. Having a couple 35 watt driving lites on the forks would be a bonus when riding with lowbeam on. Also, when lightly loaded at nite, crank down the rear preload and the low beam will reach out a little further.

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Personally, I would go with white lights. To many people, fog lights = yellow, driving lights = white, but that's simply untrue. There are white fog lights and amber driving lights. The belief that amber light is best for fog and rain is based on a misunderstanding of Raleygh scattering. The thought is the frequency of yellow light is backscattered less than white light, but fog and rain droplets are large enough to reflect back amber and white light equally. Amber lights are better in snow though, because there is better contrast with, and less glare reflected off of, snow-covered surfaces. Colored lights are usually made that way by tinting the glass, which absorbs some of the light they're trying to produce. So if you're not riding in snow, white lights would be better because they're brighter.

Now, driving vs. fog pattern depends on how you want to use them.

Driving lights cast their light in a narrow, circular beam, like a spotlight, illuminating the road far ahead of the vehicle. The beam angle is very narrow, usually in the range of 10-15 degrees, though some lights are as narrow as 5 degrees. They're sometimes referred to as "pencil beams" because the shaft of light is long and narrow like a pencil. Think of them as supplimentary high beams.

Fog lights cast their light in a very wide beam with a sharp cutoff across the top. 90 degrees is a typical beam spread from a decent set, and I've heard of beams as wide as 120 degrees. The intent of a fog light is to illuminate as much of the road in front of and around the vehicle without shining light on the droplets of water vapor in front of the driver's line of sight, which would reflect back as blinding glare. Their wide beam also makes them useful for lighting up corners and things along the side of the road waiting to jump out in front of you, and the beam cutoff means they won't blind oncoming traffic so they can be thought of as supplimentary low beams.

Because they serve different purposes, they are also best mounted in different locations. Since fog lights are designed to cast their beam of light underneath the rain and fog droplets that are at eye level, they are also usually mounted down low. However, the lower you mount the lights, the longer the shadows they cast. This won't do for driving lights. They're intended to light up the road as much as possible, so they are frequently mounted up high to provide flatter lighting. Motorcycles are a bit limited as to where you can mount lights, but on a rally bike fog lights are usually found on the forks or fender, while driving lights are up next to the windscreen.

Sorry for being so long-winded, I didn't set out to write a crash-course in auxilliary lighting. I could go into some more detail about bulbs, and the design and materials used in reflectors and lenses (or, "Why aren't my $20 Wally World lights as bright as my buddy's $200 PIAA's when they draw the same wattage?"), but I'll leave that for another time.

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post #9 of 16 Old 09-07-2006, 11:27 PM Thread Starter
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Holy Christ JetJaguar!!

You are the man!!!! :twisted: I now know who to contact when I want some information on lighting! Thanks you so much. I think that when it comes down to lighting I will be purchasing the Piaa 510 super white wide beams. (shown in www.amotostuff.com) With you experience would you agree this is a good choice :?:

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Hella has a pretty good choice of driving lights with various reaches and widths in their beams.

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