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post #1 of 12 Old 10-24-2010, 12:11 AM Thread Starter
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Kaoko Throttle Lock Question

So this came installed from the previous owner and tonight I took it off to install my Oxford heated grips.

Now in looking on putting it back together, I have a question.

Does the Kaoko unit still use the OEM inside end screw system? (Basically, what I circled in red below).



The screw that holds everything together sure doesn't seem like it's long enough to reach that stuff, yet I found it inside the bar when I took it apart. So I don't know if the previous owner just left it in there, or if I'm doing something wrong and the screw is supposed to go in that stuff, even though it looks like it's not long enough to do so.
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post #2 of 12 Old 10-24-2010, 12:22 AM
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That circled piece is an expansion rubber. You were not supposed to take the screw out, but only loosen it. Then the rubber relaxes and you can pull our the entire assembly. You need to fish out the expander with a wire or take out the other side and use compressed air or a flexible probe to push the piece out.

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and another one bites the dust :mrgreen:

sorry to laugh but you've joined a large club of people that have lost bits of the end weight assembly in the handlebars.

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Hopefully you loosened the Kaoko allen screw only enough to pull out that whole assembly. Otherwise you would drop that end piece in the bars as well. Unlike the rubber OEM piece, it is made of steel and slides diagonally to "expand".

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and another one bites the dust :mrgreen:

sorry to laugh but you've joined a large club of people that have lost bits of the end weight assembly in the handlebars.



I'm sorry, it's not nice to snicker, but really ... why is the operation of that fastener so hard to understand for so many people?
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It is nowhere near intuitive. The natural way to remove a screwed on piece is to unscrew it. If it isn't known ahead of time, it will be done wrong. The saving grace for me was the problem is so common. I read about it before trying it myself.

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It is nowhere near intuitive. The natural way to remove a screwed on piece is to unscrew it. If it isn't known ahead of time, it will be done wrong.
Yeah, but ... with rare exceptions, the only reason to remove a thingamabob that is fastened that way is to replace it with something else. By gazing upon the something else, and by (crazy, I know) maybe even reading its instructions, it's blindingly obvious how the existing thingamabob is attached.

By the way, I'm not faulting the original poster here: I realize that this is one of those rare exceptions; he had neither instructions nor a replacement, so I can see how it could happen in this case. Sorry, MeanStreaker; my bewilderment is not directed at you. :-|

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Does the Kaoko unit still use the OEM inside end screw system? (Basically, what I circled in red below).



The screw that holds everything together sure doesn't seem like it's long enough to reach that stuff, yet I found it inside the bar when I took it apart. So I don't know if the previous owner just left it in there, or if I'm doing something wrong and the screw is supposed to go in that stuff, even though it looks like it's not long enough to do so.
So, it seems that all of these guys laughing should be laughing at the previous owner!

The Kaoko uses a SIMILAR mechanism that is uniquely and definitely different and DOES NOT make re-use of the stock components.

As you likely already know, the Kaoko utilizes a sliding metal wedge setup instead of the expanding rubber.

You could likely sell the leftover bits to someone else that these guys have laughed at that can't figure out how to remove them from inside the bars, though it's not that tough to get them out.

Most all of the laughers have figured out that a magnet or wire or gravity will aid in the retrieval of those bits...







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Sorry everyone, I must not have been clear in my question.

I know that the OEM washer, rubber expansion piece, and nut are supposed to stay attached. I had no problem with the clutch side.

My question is "are those OEM pieces still used with the Kaoko lock?" In the picture below, you'll see that I have the Allen screw tightened all the way, through the bar end weight, Kaoko wheel, and the Kaoko steel pieces with the diagonal cut... and the screw does not protrude anymore, so I don't see how the OEM pieces can fit on... unless I'm doing something wrong and you guys can tell me what to fix.



That is my question. I assume the OEM pieces are not used with the Kaoko?
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So, it seems that all of these guys laughing should be laughing at the previous owner!

The Kaoko uses a SIMILAR mechanism that is uniquely and definitely different and DOES NOT make re-use of the stock components.
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Ha! thanks Henry! You posted while I was taking the pic and typing! That's what I wanted to know!

The previous owner apparently just stuck those pieces in there loose before installing the Kaoko. That's what befuddled me.

Looks like I'm good to go and will leave those out.
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