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post #1 of 11 Old 06-21-2006, 02:49 AM Thread Starter
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Steel braided brake lines for DL 1000

Any suggestions for steel braided brake lines for the DL 1000?

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post #2 of 11 Old 06-21-2006, 06:50 AM
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I have doubt about these brake lines.

The normal lines are also braided. They have two layers of rubber like two tubes: one inside the other. Between them there is the braid which is made from some kind of nylon. The diameter of the "inner" tube with the braid on it could be approximately the same as of the steel braided line.

The brake line has to be flexible so also the steel braid is made to fulfil that requirement. Therefore the steel braided rubber tube has to have almost the same "freedom" -if not less- than the normal line's tube.

I can see only one advantage of steel braid which is the better protection against mechanical impact. I wouldn't "upgrade" to these brake lines, I would rather "play" with the pads.

However I have no claims on the Strom's braking performance, it is much better than I had on my previous bikes.
Excluding the rear brake which is almost useless IMO. I cannot dose it fine, I have no feedback from the pedal, it seems to work digital: either blocks the rear wheel or does not decelerate at all.

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I cannot explain the construction of stock or replacement lines, like SS, but I do have some input as I have upgraded lines.

The lines I used now run a line from the master to each caliper instead of 1 line from the master, splits and runs to the calipers. I feel a significantly better feel to the front brakes but I wonder if it is possible to make them feel like a true sportbike because of the long travel of the front suspension. That is without fixing the front end dive with front braking.

Front and rear pad upgrade would have to help a bit too.

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I have upgraded most of my other bikes to steel braided lines and have found that it makes an amazing difference in brake feel. The biggest benefit is in the front - its like having power brakes.

While selecting my bike, I also tested a Ducati Multistrada, which I did not like. But I found that the brakes were dramatically better than the DL 1000. A pad upgrade is probably warranted also.

For those of you that have upgraded to new brake lines - where did you get them? Any problems routing the lines?

For those of you replacing the brake pads - any recommendations?

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I bought Galfers :evil:

Both front lines had the lower banjo rotated 90° from where they should have been. It was impossible to fit them without twisting them. I declined to do that & got a refund.

They were a special order & each was 2" longer than standard to accommodate my Genmar up & back risers. I'm making do with the ones the bike came with & have adjusted the routing a bit to maximise freeplay.

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I have not put them on the V, but I will soon. I usually get galfer lines, and they have always made a huge difference in feel. On my XR I could easily pull the break lever all the way to the grip, after the galfer lines there is no way to pull it that far.

In my opinion they make a huge difference.
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I will be working with Galfer and coming up with the proper lines to fit both the DL-650 and 1000 in the future. I can also have them made in 1" longer or more sets when needed on special order.


Braided stainless lines make a huge differance over the stock rubber type lines in braking and feel on the lever. Installing a good set of brake pads at least in the front is also the way to go.


I will carry Ferodo's as far as pads go


Soon i will be testing this combo and working on it all


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Recently I was at a brake line manufacturer's factory.
I asked them about steel braided brake lines.
Now I have to say I was partly wrong with my previous statement (see above).
The steel braided brake lines have not rubber but rigid teflon tubes, which means they can provide better braking feeling.
Perhaps I will visit them again with the DL and let them getting the dimensions of the Strom's brake lines. For that they will present me with a set.

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+1 for SS lines (I have front, rear and clutch in Spiegler version) for my 05DL1k.

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I upgraded the pads and the lines at the same time. Great improvement but now I need stiffer fork springs cuz the bike will dive under hard braking.

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