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post #1 of 9 Old 01-25-2010, 09:53 PM Thread Starter
 
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Narcosis junky Skid Plate installation

I am one of the first to receive this very well designed skid plate and mounting bracket, and would like to give my thoughts to help others with the install. The following are just some of my opinions and some pics to guide you through. I purchased the skid plate and bracket from this thread here:

https://stromtrooper.com/showthread.php?t=48308

First, you will need to remove 3 bolts. The two that hold the side stand on from the rear (up under the bike 17MM) and the exhaust bolt, top and centered, (12MM) that is also pictured. If you hold the bracket up there, you will see how it fits.


Here is how the bracket fits up there.

Those two side stand bolts are very tight and heavily loc-tited in place. I was not able to remove them with my 1/2" drive air powered impact wrench and a swivel extention, even though I could get the socket on both of them square. This is how I got them loose. BE CAREFUL not to pull the bike forward and off the centerstand if this is how you are holding the bike up. I pushed on the foot peg and pulled on the wrench so as not to pull the bike off the stand. Take the front one completely out first, it will make it easier to get to the rear one.

The exhaust bolt was easy to remove. Once I had all the bolts out, it was time for a trip to the local Fastenal Store. They helped me find suitable replacements for the stock bolts. I don't think there are enough threads to re-use the stock bolts. The 1/4" longer side stand bolts will likely have to be special ordered, and may not be available in the correct length. I got lucky, they had some that I could cut down. These are M12-1.25 thread pitch. They are fine thread. Stock length was 1 1/8" (not including the head).

The exhaust bolt was easy to come by on the shelf, it is an M8-1.25 course thread. Stock length was 1 3/4" (not including the head) and I bought a 2" long one. The original bolts have loc-tite all over them.

I also bought some U-bolts in 1/4"X 1-1/8"X2-1/4". These were not ideal, and will be replaced later. But they were only $3 and the closest thing the local Lowes had when I was there. I will fix this post when I find the correct size, but the 1-1/8" width fits the Givi crash bars pretty well. I would like to have 5/16" U-bolts in stainless with the correct length, which I will calculate later.

I bought a couple of nuts to go with the longer side stand bolts to help hold them in the vise, and to straighten out the threads after cutting. I used a 5" angle grinder and a 1/16" cut off wheel to cut them to the correct length (1 3/8").

After cleaning the ends with the grinder and tapering them slightly to make staring them easier, I backed the nuts off and made sure they started easily by hand. Now I had new bolts, these are grade 8.8 BTW.

Next I cut a couple of pieces of an old inner tube to be used as padding, and to hold the U-bolts in place for me. I poked some holes in them with an awl, these will not be visible after the install, so I don't care what they look like.

Next, I attempted to install the skid plate, and realized that the rear lip on the plate interfered with my Hepko Becker center stand. I marked the skid plate and removed it for demo. If you have this center stand, you will need to cut a notch in the exact center of the rear most part of the plate. It needs to be about 3/8" wide and about 7/8" deep. Here is the notch I cut.

A motorcycle jack makes this installation easy, now I can jack up the entire bike with this jack easily.

Here is a view of how the SP interferes with the HB centerstand, notice the overlap now that I have notched the SP.

And one more view of the notch from underneath. My notch ended up dead center, YMMV.

Next, I tightened down the U-bolts and the two Stainless Steel bolts that came with the bracket (it also has nyloc nuts welded to the top of it). I found that these two SS bolts are too short, and will need to be replaced with 1/4" longer ones so that they will contact the nylon material in the nuts.

All done, mostly! The U-bolt NEED TO BE CUT DOWN! I have heard of the rear edge of the front fender getting caught on these, so I cut them off right away. I did it with my grinder while everything was on the bike, but you may wish to remove the U-bolts first. :mrgreen:

There, all done. For now.

Pretty, huh?
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post #2 of 9 Old 01-25-2010, 10:06 PM
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Thanks!! My skid-pad is in the mail >yawn<.

Seems like an awful lot of hardware replacement and modification for something that I thought was pretty much a bolt-on. Maybe I'm reading too much into your experience? Were you surprised by the amount of custom fabrication and bolt modification you required?

I'm in the great white metric north, so getting bolts and assorted other metric fasteners is easy...really easy.

Great report...!!

Craig.

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post #3 of 9 Old 01-25-2010, 11:29 PM
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I have a SW-motech duel kick stand, and I have lot's of clearance. As far as the bolt's behind the kick stand. I removed the washers that come behind the kick stand bolts, and use the bracket as washer. So I didn't have to replace the bolts. And on the exhaust side, I found my original bolt to be long enough. Yes I did cut the U-bolts down so the fender doesn't touch. I mount the front and then raise the rear and install the bolt's. I use the same size bolt's on my bike. But I will provide longer ones in the future.
The bolt's I provided are the same length on my bike. But that's easy to take care of in the future. Thank you for the feed back.

Yann

UPDATE-UPDATE-UPDATE-UPDATE-UPDATE-UPDATE-UPDATE

I now supply all the hardware to mount the skid plate and Bracket. I will charge $10 more for all the hardware. So the total when you order the skid plate will be $130. Please specify if you want button/allen head bolts or hex bolts for under the skid plate. I'm doing this because a lot of people have asked me to do this. Hope it helps.



I'm offering button bolts for people that want it. I personally don't recommend it. I have Hex on my bike. I would think that the allen head will fill with crap. But some people like the lower profile they give you. So if you want it, just ask. thank you.




yann

How to install skid plate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYowM...feature=colike

How to install the HWY pegs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi2c2...feature=colike

How to install the 2012 Radiator guard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6aVzSDFahI

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No surprises here, I did not plan on using the stock bolts. They are not nearly long enough IMO. There was no custom fabrication, the Skidplate had not been tested with the Hepko Becker centerstand and all it needed was a small notch. The coverage it provides is worth it, and that is no big deal. I replaced three bolts and had to cut two of them to the correct length, not a problem. I even showed you a good way to do it.

I spent a total of $8.50 on hardware. This skidplate is far superior to anything else I have seen on the market. It was well worth the small amount of fuss to install it.

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Thanks!! My skid-pad is in the mail >yawn<.

Seems like an awful lot of hardware replacement and modification for something that I thought was pretty much a bolt-on. Maybe I'm reading too much into your experience? Were you surprised by the amount of custom fabrication and bolt modification you required?

I'm in the great white metric north, so getting bolts and assorted other metric fasteners is easy...really easy.

Great report...!!

Craig.
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post #5 of 9 Old 01-26-2010, 12:12 AM
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Thank you

Thank you . It makes me feel good about my creation. I will make the notch change on the laser program. So when I ask my work to cut some more. The notch will be there. So it will be more unniversal.
Again. Thank you very much for your feed back.

Yann

How to install skid plate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYowM...feature=colike

How to install the HWY pegs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi2c2...feature=colike

How to install the 2012 Radiator guard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6aVzSDFahI

contact [email protected]

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You are quite welcome.

One other thing. When you source some longer bolts to attach the plate to the bracket, try to get button head allen bolts. These will be smoother and less likely to catch on things when using the plate for its intended purpose.
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post #7 of 9 Old 01-26-2010, 03:49 PM
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Here is a change I have made in the program

I made the change in the program. I still have a few to sell with out the notch. But the next batch I have made at my work, will have the notch. so it will fit the Hepko Becker Center Stand. I will also include the hard ware for a little bit more money. I'm researching on the hardware. I'm not buying it from my local hardware store. It's to expensive. I will post a future quote for the hardware.

yann


Here is the change I made to the program. For the hepko Becker Center Stand fit.



Keep the feed backs coming and I will make the changes.
I have only been working on this skid plate thing for a couple months now.

yann

UPDATE-UPDATE-UPDATE-UPDATE-UPDATE-UPDATE-UPDATE

I now supply all the hardware to mount the skid plate and Bracket. I will charge $10 more for all the hardware. So the total when you order the skid plate will be $130. Please specify if you want button/allen head bolts or hex bolts for under the skid plate. I'm doing this because a lot of people have asked me to do this. Hope it helps.



I'm offering button bolts for people that want it. I personally don't recommend it. I have Hex on my bike. I would think that the allen head will fill with crap. But some people like the lower profile they give you. So if you want it, just ask. thank you.




yann

How to install skid plate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYowM...feature=colike

How to install the HWY pegs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi2c2...feature=colike

How to install the 2012 Radiator guard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6aVzSDFahI

contact [email protected]

Yann D. (541)912-1205

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post #8 of 9 Old 01-30-2010, 10:16 PM
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Skid Plate

I appreciate the pictured install as the 2 I ordered for mine and my wifes DL's are still in the box unopened Since I have not had the time to do the install. Now I can't wait I just hope it will work with my Old style Motech crash bars. The wife has the Givi not to worry I will figure out how to make it work :-) Thanks Yann for making more I hope everyone else iss happy woth theirs too. I know we will be.
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post #9 of 9 Old 01-31-2010, 12:48 AM
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This might help with your install.

I redid the Original post. I added instructions. hope it helps. I have also put together hardware kits. So in the future I will include them for $10 more.

https://stromtrooper.com/showthread.php?t=48308

yann

How to install skid plate:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYowM...feature=colike

How to install the HWY pegs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi2c2...feature=colike

How to install the 2012 Radiator guard:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6aVzSDFahI

contact [email protected]

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