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post #1 of 19 Old 08-19-2009, 10:13 AM Thread Starter
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Rich's Custom vs Russell Day Long

I'm within a 25 minute drive of Rich's Custom seats. What I want to know is, has anybody sat on a Rich's Custom and a Russell to compare the two?

Even if Rich's Custom seat contours to your body, he isn't pulling the giant-foam-plus-mattress-spring combo that Russell is. Russell seats essentially replicate a tractor seat in soft foam form and the sides are supported by a metal spring.

All others just use foam, contoured to your the shape of your posterior. I'm not knocking Rich's Custom seat. It's just obvious that the two have distinct approaches and I want to hear the comparison.
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post #2 of 19 Old 08-19-2009, 01:51 PM
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I've not sat on a Rich's seat but have a Russell on my vee. A couple of things, one is that it is not all that soft (a good thing since soft seats=numb butts) and the next thing is that Russell got tired of the inconsistency of the foam that they were buying so they bought their own machine and can pump out the foam in any density they want.

Many of the other makers mimic the Russell shape but none can use their construction with the spring. Foam alone will eventually break down faster then with the added support of the spring.

Having said all that I hear that Rich makes a really nice seat and since it is custom it should be better than Corbin or Sargent.


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I have seen and sat on a couple Rich's seats, and they are top quality.

He also makes the seat specific to the rider, so in that respect, it closer to the Russel than a generic custom, like Sargent or Corbin.

Everyone is built so differently, and has different requirements in terms of comfort, it's just one of those things that you have to take a chance won't really know until you do it.
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post #4 of 19 Old 08-19-2009, 08:37 PM
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Just sitting on either one wouldn't tell you anything. You'd have to ride on it for a long time to really know if the seat is very good.
My initial thought of my Russell when i first sat on it was.. this is hard.... but it didn't take long into my first ride to realize this was a way better seat!!

I'm very very happy with my Russell and would recommend them to anyone.. but it would be hard not to try Rich's seats if he is that close to you. Does he have a money back if your not satisfied policy like Russell does?

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post #5 of 19 Old 08-19-2009, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by OompaLoompa View Post
has anybody sat on a Rich's Custom and a Russell to compare the two?
I have the exact same question you have and am interested in the replies. If I decide to go with Rich's I'm planning on hauling my bike over in the back of the truck this winter to get it done.

I have seen one Rich's seat in person and it looked really nice. But it was on a BMW GS800 and lowered a lot for the gal riding it so I couldn't use that to judge how the Strom seat might turn out.

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post #6 of 19 Old 08-19-2009, 09:21 PM
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To muddy things up even more consider a Bill Mayer saddle. Either one you choose, talk to the people making the seat and tell them what problems you have ( where it hurts). A good custom seat builder can cure your problems. I've tried several "off the shelf" Corbins and Sargent on other bikes and had to have them sent back for alterations. A good seat builder should make alteration without charge.

If Rich's is only 25 minutes away, try to schedule a ride-in and talk to them in person.
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I have a Rich's seat on my bike. As said before just sitting on it will do you no good besides my seat is made for me. Rich spent a whole lot of time shaping and reshaping to get my seat to feel just right for me. I cannot complain one bit about it. I have seen the Russel seats and they look nice as well. I know that from now on when I get a new bike one of the first stops will be to see Rich.

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post #8 of 19 Old 08-20-2009, 09:30 PM
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Rich's will build a seat for YOU. Sargent and Corbin try to fit the asses of the masses so are a generic. One seat can't fit the asses of the masses as all the asses are different. If you don't like something about the seat down the road, Rich most likely will fix it, on the spot possibly. Keep it local.

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Rich's seat update

I've had my rich's seat for over a year, sent it with them and some pic's from the motorcycle show. received the seat a couple of weeks later, very nice workmanship, felt great. I was coming off a corbin canyon seat. not to bad of a saddle but was super hard and I was moving around a lot. heavy and vibey. After riding my new seat for a season I felt it needed some adjustment. Called Nick at rich's and he said no problem come on over. I hauled the bike over and checked in, Rich met me at the door and saw to it that the bike was unloaded safely. I got there just before quitting time, I unloaded my gear into there guest apartment that rents for a mere $50.00 a night! Pictures don't do it justice, very plush digs! It was a sunny afternoon so Rich asked me if I'd like to go for a ride, he and is wife were going to catch some riding time in the good weather. So off we went out and about, ended up at a seafood place for a great meal and good company. it was great to get back in the seat again, been a long winter in my neck off the woods! Back at the apartment I kicked back and watched the " the Long way round" and how many times you could crash a overloaded GS. Next morning when I went down stairs I was ready for a pre fit test ride. first test ride was much better, but not quite there, I came back and explained what was needed and the technician began applying his magic. A little later I was ready for another road test. Bingo! This is the seat I was looking for. Back to the shop for the cover install and were done by lunchtime! Great experience, the service was awesome! I know I'm a little off track here so I'll come around.
I have a riding buddy who has a russell so we swap bikes now and then, the Russell fits nice but for me is too far forward almost on the tank. This is probably good if you do a lot of two up riding as the pillion has more seat. My Rich's seat is a Solo seat that sets me back a bit. Both seats are tall and I like that, though I'm on the balls of my feet at a light. Once again, it's hard to beat something that is custom made, and for the money I'm happy with my choice.

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post #10 of 19 Old 03-30-2011, 02:06 PM
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I've never had anything but stock seats and the Rich's Custom he did for my last bike. I'm going back to him for my new seat. He's a fun ferry ride away for me and provides a level of customization and customer service that are hard to beat. He builds the best seat for you while you wait. It's an all-day affair, which is fine 'cause there are lots of places to explore and interesting people to talk to. Once the seat is built, you ride on it for awhile, then take it back for any adjustments. I know lots of people swear by their seats, but I won't go with anyone but Rich 'cause I've had such good experience. He does not mass market, and it's reflective in the ride.
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