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post #1 of 48 Old 05-21-2008, 03:51 PM Thread Starter
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Touchy throttle fix?

I come from Harleys, and a turn of the throttle started a relatively gradual and predictable increase in speed or power to the ground - but on this 07 DL1000 the first few millimeters of turn make a big difference. It's almost unmanagable at low speeds, especially standing up going over rough terrain. Granted, I'm new to the bike AND the riding style, but it seems that a less touchy throttle (at least in the first increments of movement) would be a desirable thing. Anybody else looked into this?
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Do not remove your secondary throttle plates.

Don't know how to desensitize the throttle response any more than stock though.

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touchy throttle

I have a 650, and found the same thing to be true. The FI is very abrupt coming off idle.

My searching and reading told me that I should check the throttle position sensor, the adjustment of the throttle cables, and the throttle body sync. None of those were relevant to the issue on mine. I did discover, though, that it's much less problematic at high RPM. When rolling on power in a curve, there is far less "jerk" at 5500+ than at 4000. Since I won't spend much time below 5000 in the twisties anyway, and the clutch masks the problem in town, it hasn't been much of an issue for me in practice. However, I haven't done much rough terrain yet.

I suspect that the only "fix" would be a Power Commander or similar.

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I noticed the same thing on my 07 and found that removing some of the free play in the throttle cables helped quite a bit.

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These are not Harleys. They are light, responsive bikes. I noticed the same thing when I first got mine but now would never have it any other way. It's something you get used to and forget about.

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It's almost unmanagable at low speeds, especially standing up going over rough terrain. Granted, I'm new to the bike AND the riding style, but it seems that a less touchy throttle (at least in the first increments of movement) would be a desirable thing. Anybody else looked into this?


The right hand giveth and the left hand taketh away.

When doing low speed manoevers on HD's I'm working the left hand at least as much as the right. It's just a little trickier up on the pegs.

I know someone with an Yamaha FJR who got an elliptical dohickey on the right grip to smooth out throttle play.

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it is the other way around....

after test driving a Buell and riding some Harley's over the weekend, I would say it is the other way around. I have to really crank their throttle to go anywhere and get some steam going.

Get used to it, sure you can probably take/give a little slack from the cable, but the Suzuki redlines at 10 grand with torque stating to drop at 9500 rpm's so enjoy cranking the throttle, where the Harley's are totally out of breath at 5500 rpm.

This is not a slam on either product-it is just a character trait of the engine, I have also ridden Ducatis where if you breath on the throttle the bike goes off.

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These are not Harleys. They are light, responsive bikes. I noticed the same thing when I first got mine but now would never have it any other way.
Have you ever owned a cheap stereo which went from a whisper to a blast between "1" and "3" on the volume scale? It doesn't mean it's more responsive or powerful; it just means the volume control is poorly designed.

Smooth power application and responsiveness are not mutually exclusive. The abrupt arrival of power from idle is a flaw. Not all responsive, fuel injected bikes behave this way.

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It's something you get used to and forget about.
Sure, I can forgive a lot in a bike at this price, but that doesn't make it a feature; it's a bug.

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Smooth power application and responsiveness are not mutually exclusive. The abrupt arrival of power from idle is a flaw. Not all responsive, fuel injected bikes behave this way.
Then perhaps the other bikes are the ones that are flawed. The throttle on my V-Strom and my VFR (which behaves pretty much the same way) are exactly the way I like them. I don't consider it to be a flaw at all, I consider it to be a feature.

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The throttle on my V-Strom and my VFR (which behaves pretty much the same way) are exactly the way I like them.
Yup, I've heard the same thing about the VFR (I haven't ridden one). If it turns some buyers on (abruptly ), then it may well be a conscious design choice. But a feeling of refinement it is not.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining. I can work around it, and this bike has a lot going for it, particularly in grins-per-mile. The smooth FI is one thing I miss about BMW, though (there are many more things that I do not miss).

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