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post #1 of 8 Old 06-17-2005, 06:19 PM
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Has Suzuki said theres a problem or not.

Ive seen some treads that state Suzuki has in fact admitted that the DL 1000 need to be remapped. Can anyone confirm this. Went back to the dealer to get Givi bags added and logged another complant about the coughing at lower rpms. He later called me and said he had talked to his regional service mgr and nothing is "out on the problem". Asked about the Power Comander but was told it would void my warrenty. The two responses Ive gotten from the dealer were "Your riding at a rpm too low for 2nd" and that it will smooth out with more miles. Ive got 1600 on it now am I being to impatient?
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post #2 of 8 Old 06-17-2005, 06:29 PM
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Mines coming up on 5000 miles and the hiccup happens almost never. When it does it is a surprise. Whereas from 0 to about 2000 miles it was more frequent. I'm gonna live with it for now. Keeping the TBS and TPS set correcty help.

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My DL1000, which has 6,700 miles, has recently started surging. As a former BMW owner, I know surging when I see it (feel it?). Anyway, I dropped the bike off at my dealership today to get several things done. I told the service guy about the surging and asked if they had a Power Commander for my bike in stock. He said he had just talked with a region Suzuki guy about the problem with surging. He was told that Suzuki was close to a fix that would make a Power Commander unnecessary. I told him that was great, but that I have a two-week trip planned to start on July 1 and just wanted the surging to go away before I leave. When I pick up my bike next week it will either have a Power Commander installed or Suzuki's fix. We'll see.

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post #4 of 8 Old 06-18-2005, 12:38 AM
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Seems like Suzuki is getting tired of us complaining about the hiccups and surges, maybe soon I'll be able to get a fix for free :P as it should be. They ought to since I bought my bike I see stroms almost every day whereas a few months ago I never saw one on the road. Now if everyone would stop trying to race me I think I'll be ok or a few more months
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My 04 1000 has the same problem. I removed the secondary butterflys and it does help. There is less coughing at low RPMS. This could tie you over unitl the "FIX" comes.
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post #6 of 8 Old 06-18-2005, 02:57 PM
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My dealer not only told me about the problem, but offered to install a PC. Of course he said you need to have aftermarket pipes for the PCIII to work right, I didn't even ask how much. I put the PCIII on at about 1000 miles the bike just keeps getting better. Over 4000 miles now with a trip planned for next weekend that should be in the 1500-2000 mile range.BTW the dealer also used the "It will get better with time" line on me. I haven't rode any others so I don't know if it actually improves over time or the riders get used to it a little. All I really know at this thing will pull O/D easily at 3500 or lower when it used to chug even at 4000.
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My experience has been that it does not get better with time. I have an '04 DL1000 that I've put 10,000 miles on since July -- the low-RPM burping was fairly consistent over that period, while the frequency and severity of subtle surges seemed to increase. (I do tend to hit the throttle rather aggressively, so perhaps the increase is due to accelerated wear of my own creation.)

I recently spent a couple hours on the phone trying to find a dealer here in SE Michigan with the computer to adjust the FI. I finally found one about 50 miles away in Dearborn Heights. Aside from the commute, the whole process of increasing the mid-range by 5 percent took about two minutes. That increase instantly resolved all of my surging issues, though I still had a less-frequent stutter-burp. It's back at the dealer right now for some extra work (new springs & basic service) and I've asked them to increase the mid by another 5 percent. Hope that cures the burp.

BTW, the dealer didn't charge for the FI adjustment -- as it should be. This option makes more sense to me rather than buying a PCIII (with no immediate plans for new pipes). Though I'm still frustrated that I had to search so hard and travel so far to find a Suzuki dealer with the computer fix. (Some dealers practically laughed at me when I asked if they had one.)
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post #8 of 8 Old 06-21-2005, 11:30 AM
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I would not hold my breath about Suzuki admitting anything. What is more likely is they will come out with an "update" for the mapping issues. In todays law suit happy world, who can blame them.

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