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post #1 of 9 Old 04-08-2013, 10:12 AM Thread Starter
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Hello all,


Much like many others here, I am seriously looking in the Wee Strom direction for my next bike.

In my area, there are a few options for Wees at a few different price points (and dealing with people ranging from "gives me solid input in communications and instills confidence" to "sort of skeeves me out, but damn that bike's got all of the farkles you could ever want").

Right now, i'm leaning towards a 2004 Wee with about 66000km on the clock. The current (and only) owner was very forthcoming and quite accommodating when I went to see the bike. He has obviously taken great care of his bike - it looks fantastic ! It comes with hard bags, center stand, engine guards, a few different windscreens and a custom made aluminum storage tube mounted opposite the exhaust. Asking price is $4000.

Seems like a pretty decent deal to me.


BUT !


There is also a 2004 Triumph Tiger 955i in the area for about $6000 from the original owner. This one is farkled with pretty much everything and looks to be in even better condition than the Wee. Best part ? 18000km on the clock - barely broken in. Triumph bikes do not go up for sale in my area all that often. Tigers, less so. Tigers in (seemingly) good shape and low mileage, NEVER.


Hence the original question : Is the Wee worth 2/3 of the Triumph ? Or, asked another way, is the Triumph Tiger 955i worth 50% more cash than the DL650 ?
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Having had both their shortcomings are fairly similar, weak suspension, less than state of the art brakes.
Depends on what you want to do with it. The Tiger is heavier so if dirt is in the future you might want the lighter bike.
If its road and just a dirt road I would rather have the Tiger. More power, more relaxed at highway speed, somewhat better brakes.
One downside to the Tiger I can see is that the bike hasn't been made since 2006 and they were never in large numbers so if aftermarket goodies are high on your list they could be somewhat scarce.

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what about dealer support, in your neck of the woods?

the issue of the $$$ difference, in my mind/pocket, would play a huge part in the decision

$2k would buy a lot of fuel & therefore tip the scales toward the STROM

i've had cheaper bikes & i've had more exotic/$$$ bikes

none of them EVER provided more MILES OF SMILES, than my WEE

& she's done it for way less $$$

just an old man's 2 worth

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Your right that's a tough one

If you don't do your own mechanical work then I wouldn't get into the Triumph.

If you came from a liter bike then the 650 may seem lame

The extra mileage is 1/2 a problem Many bearing etc and suspension items are fagged out at this point. Unless you hear of rebuilt forks and new shocks that girls is tired and won't be right till you get those brought up to service. The motor though worrysome you can get a fleabay motor for like 850 anytime.
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Thanks for taking the time to reply, people.


swoody126 : Yeah, dealer support is something of a concern. There is one about 70km away and another 250km away. As far as I know those are the only two for quite some distance after that. On the other hand, while every bike is a bit of a "luck of the draw" thing, from what I've been reading, the Tiger 955i is supposed to be very reliable.

Joe S. : You're right : the Tiger 955i's aren't that common. Being 6+ years out of production will do that. And you're also right that finding gear might be an issue. Thing is though, here is a partial list of accessories :
-Factory hard bags
-Factory performance exhaust
-Centre and kick stand
-Heated grips
-12v accessory socket
-SW Motech upper and lower engine/tank protector bars
-SW Motech rider footrests (originals included)
-Fender extender
-2 windshields (sport and tall)
-2" bar riser kit
While not the be all, end all, that does seem to be a pretty exhaustive list of farkles. The Wee that I'm looking at would need at least $500 worth of gear (skid plate, heated grips, barkbusters, etc) to get it to the point where I'd want to truly ride it anywhere.

richw : I was under the impression that 66000km for a Wee wasn't really a concern as long as it's been maintained properly. Should I be steering clear of this one and trying to find a lower mileage bike instead ?
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Everyone says vstroms are ugly, but honestly, I could never quite get over the look of those Tigers, bulbous tank and all.

That said, the reliability of the Vstrom of that ilk is known - the aftermarket is stellar for that bike, and servicing a Zook, if ever needed, will probably be less of a hassle than tracking down a Triumph expert. Also, the Vstrom will get much better fuel mileage than the Triumph on it's best day, as well cost much less in insurance.

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Thanks for taking the time to reply, people.


swoody126 : Yeah, dealer support is something of a concern. There is one about 70km away and another 250km away. As far as I know those are the only two for quite some distance after that. On the other hand, while every bike is a bit of a "luck of the draw" thing, from what I've been reading, the Tiger 955i is supposed to be very reliable.

Joe S. : You're right : the Tiger 955i's aren't that common. Being 6+ years out of production will do that. And you're also right that finding gear might be an issue. Thing is though, here is a partial list of accessories :
-Factory hard bags
-Factory performance exhaust
-Centre and kick stand
-Heated grips
-12v accessory socket
-SW Motech upper and lower engine/tank protector bars
-SW Motech rider footrests (originals included)
-Fender extender
-2 windshields (sport and tall)
-2" bar riser kit
While not the be all, end all, that does seem to be a pretty exhaustive list of farkles. The Wee that I'm looking at would need at least $500 worth of gear (skid plate, heated grips, barkbusters, etc) to get it to the point where I'd want to truly ride it anywhere.

richw : I was under the impression that 66000km for a Wee wasn't really a concern as long as it's been maintained properly. Should I be steering clear of this one and trying to find a lower mileage bike instead ?
The 955i Tiger is durable and reliable. Once in a while you'll see a regulator/rectifier go bad or a stator about like most bikes with limited electrical capacity and that people run a fair number of electrical accessories on. However there are aftermarket alternatives that are far less expensive than oem. I don't think the engine parts are an issue anyway, its usually stuff like fenders, saddlebags etc. that are hard to get.
As you point out the one you are looking at appears to be pretty well set up. About the only thing mentioned that the 650 would need I don't see on the tiger list is a skid plate. I would assume there are still some out there for them though. Otherwise I can't see much that a person would want for.
On mine I had Racetech cartridge fork emulators and heavier springs. I also had a Wilbers rear shock. These were good changes on the '06. My understanding is the '04 had lighter fork springs and if I recall they also had wire spoke wheels rather than cast.
You're correct, 6 years out of production does affect the numbers. There never were huge numbers of Tigers anyway but one good thing is that there was a lot of interchangibility during the years they were around so you should always be able to find parts without much difficulty.
One thing worth pointing out is that in many ways the 955i was a better touring bike than the 1050 (which I currently have). Bigger tank, arguably better seat (still not very good in stock form though). The 1050 has a bunch more powr and sharper handling on the street but the 955i does dirt road better.
No matter what direction you go you'll have a good machine.
One other thing, the triple sounds awesome and is just plain a damn fun engine

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This is my opinion and is derived with little real world evidence

If any bike is used hard (mine) then I think that suspension components do wear at a rate. My suspension on our roads cycles through the entire stroke and often bottoms out on big stuff. If forks have juice changed say every 10K MILES then I think slides and seals good till say 40Kmiles. Stock shock is tired at 20K Miles and stops doing a good job. Probably next year I will go for a racetech rebuild or progressive replacement.

Many light users can and do happily motor along for 80,000 miles without ever thinking about this stuff
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Many people simply don't have the experience to tell good suspension from bad. They just know what they have. I certainly don't claim to be an expert but I can tell a difference between poor and very good just because i've had a lot of bikes and suspension is one of the things I will modify, if for no other reason than I'm heavier than the theoretical average most manufacturers build a bike to.
Its also not all or nothing, the components wear over time and one tends not to notice the degradation of performance. Not unlike having tires wear and then when you change them out, wow, its like a whole new bike.
As an example, my friend's '05 has somewhere north of 50k on it. When I ride his bike I can tell a big difference, he doesn't see so much because it has been happening over time.

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