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post #1 of 23 Old 07-29-2011, 10:00 AM Thread Starter
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At age 27 I have been riding a few years now on a 1991 Ninja 600. Been a great first bike, but I have had my eyes on the V-Strom for a while now. At first I couldn't believe the forums. They didn't seem real because everyone loves their bike, and the forums are not smothered in posts about thing XYZ always breaking. After a lot of time spent on ADV and these forums, here is what I gather as the only negatives I've seen with any consistency....and of course my thoughts with them.

wind buffeting at higher speeds (this is the only one that presents a problem for me with a lot of 70mph freeways to get anywhere with decent scenary), some struggle with the height (not I at 6'1), the few who don't like the 6k RPM at freeway speeds (stock sprockets, but as long as it rides smooth I don't see why 6k is so bothersome if it not affecting mpg by not changing teeth count), and some claim a lack of power out of the 650 (600 has always been enough for me, nobody i need to impress), its not great at off road or racing (well duh, its not supposed to be, its just supposed to be competent at both, not the best)

So I ask...what am I missing? How can I not buy one of these bikes within the next year? Now I am curious to see what the 2012 gets released at, but if I just do a currency rate adjustment it looks like 10-11k msrp or so, which means I'll likely be going after a 08-11 used or new. Besides the only thing that potentially gets knocked off the list above is the wind buffeting. The rest is just improvements on things that will just make a phenomenal bike a little bit better right?
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I have owned 46 bikes since 1996, sport bikes , sport touring bikes, dirt bikes, BMWs, track bikes, blackbird, hyabusa, DL1000 et all, the DL650 is my favorite of all of them. Do a little suspension work, its a great all around bike. Kieth
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So I ask...what am I missing?...
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I bought my '06 in '07 with 10k miles (now at 40k) for $5k. When done, I will probably have put another $3-4k (mostly top-line suspension) in it. For my style of riding, I believe it to be the absolute perfect bike in it's HP/weight class. The only other bikes that seriously attract my attention are G'wings and R1200RTs, and I wonder if they would suit me as well as my Wee.

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I have owned 46 bikes since 1996, sport bikes , sport touring bikes, dirt bikes, BMWs, track bikes, blackbird, hyabusa, DL1000 et all, the DL650 is my favorite of all of them. Do a little suspension work, its a great all around bike. Kieth
I'm in the same boat. I currently ride a cruiser but am getting more interested in touring adventure riding. As Im searching for a new ride I keep coming back to the Strom. Keith -- why the 650 over the 1000. Also why the strom over the sport tourers like the BMW or st1300. many thanks. My guess is the strom is a good combo of touring and adventure.
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I recently purchased an 09 DL650. I just took it for the longest ride to date...about 350 miles. Started at an elevation of 1500 feet and went up to 6100 feet. Rode in temps ranging from 80 to 110. Rode through twisties and long straights. The bike ran like a champ. I did at 35 mile section running about 95 mph. I haven't encountered the buffeting that is spoken so much of. I do have the Madstad bracket and the stock windshield. I'm 6'4" and I put the bracket at it highest setting and most inclined setting. Seems to work great. The bike ran up hill just fine. I actually have started riding it more and more in the 6000 rpm area in lower gears.

Here is my only "negative" thing to say about the 650. When I am in a position to pass someone, it would be nice to have that 1000 cc power available for the quick pass. Don't get me wrong, the 650 has lots of "umph" to get the job done. But, when you have the ability to pass someone with literally no thought about the oncoming traffic, you miss it a little. Is it enough to justify not owning it. Of course not.

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why the 650 over the 1000. Also why the strom over the sport tourers like the BMW or st1300
The general consensus is that the 650 is the better bike than the 1000 in all respects except max power--better handling, smoother power.

The Stroms compare to the BMW GS series, both "adventure touring" bikes which mainly means all road, paved or unpaved. The R1200GS is a great bike, but BMW means Bring My Wallet. The Strom might be more reliable, rides great, and costs much less, especially concerning life cycle costs. The ST bikes are a different genre, a great pavement traveler, but not an all-road bike like the stroms and the GS. The Triumph Tiger line, Yamaha Tenere line, Honda Transalp & Varadero, Ducati Multistrada, KTM Adventure line, Moto Guzzi Stelvio are other adventure Touring bikes.

Suzuki made some compromises to keep the strom price down. The suspension can well use some upgrades. The windscreen and seat could be changed for the better at no cost to Suzuki, but instead we gott'a do it at our cost. No one is debating the strom reliability -- there are no perfect bikes, but the strom runs great for a long time. There is one thread where the strom owner complains that his odometer stops at 199,999 miles -- and he's still riding it.

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wind buffeting at higher speeds
I've never experienced buffeting with mine - at any speed up to 160-170km/h (100-105mph) indicated I currently run a taller Givi screen. I'm 1.8m (5'11") tall and my line of sight is just over the top of the screen.

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Here is my only "negative" thing to say about the 650. When I am in a position to pass someone, it would be nice to have that 1000 cc power available for the quick pass. Don't get me wrong, the 650 has lots of "umph" to get the job done. But, when you have the ability to pass someone with literally no thought about the oncoming traffic, you miss it a little. Is it enough to justify not owning it. Of course not.
Yes, agreed. One needs to change down and hit the throttle. It's so different from my XJR1300 where one just opens the throttle in any gear and it just goes. For that reason I have considered selling both bikes and getting a DL1000.

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You don't say whether you want a 650 or 1000, The K runs lower RPM at highway speeds and a Madsad bracket solved my buffeting problem.

I find it quite comfortable for commuting and fun to ride off work too.
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What are you missing? The Wee is my 13th bike in 17 years of biking and it stands out in the top 3 or 4 of those bikes for all round competance. There may not be any one area in which it is awesome but its the way the VStrom manages to impress in so many different categories: economy, comfort, reliability, cheap to buy&cheap to run, weather protection, fun factor & characterful engine. Its a 'swiss army knife' of bikes and if you run only one bike and its your main form of transport the VStrom is hard to beat! There are (at least) 3 very informative, passionate and dedicated forums on the net dedicated to the VStrom and that says it all - an almost cult following for this unsung hero.
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You gotta ride 'em. Period.

I'd be astonished if the MSRP was more than $9K and it will likely be more like $8,500.

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