Just looked at the 2nd/blue bike. It turns out that it was at a dealer which is misleading as it was listed for sale by owner. Great shape but needs tires. The chain was a little tight which is a turn off. Also the brakes needed bleeding. Big chicken strips on the tires. Obviously not owned by a meticulous rider but i doubt he hurt it in less then 6k miles. It took several tries to get her started. I offered him $4500 cash on the spot but he turned it down. Quite sure he would take $4800
Going to look at the first/black bike now.