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post #1 of 18 Old 02-12-2011, 04:15 PM Thread Starter
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Advice needed about Wee: New vs Used

Hi,
I really want to get a Wee soon - read all about it, and I know it is the right bike. The V is a bit too much for me, haven't ridden in many years. 65+- BHP is just fine for me - so no problem with choosing a model.

My problem is that I what to get - used or new.
First, I just can't seem to find decent used Wees with low mileages and a decent/price in the NJ area.
For example: Some guy is trying to sell his 2009 bike which he dropped for $5500 (before taxes/fee).
A new 2011 with ABS costs about $8200-8300 OTD to my latest research.
So for only $2000 I get a brand new, safer bike with warranty..why buy a 2-3 year bike with such a small price difference?
On the other hand, I'm just a weekend warrior and did not plan to spend so much on a bike. (I have the money, just not willing to happily spend it)
I read here about 2007 Wees with 4000 miles for about $4500-5000, where do you guys find these bikes? (Searched craigslist, searchtempset, ebay, dealers..)

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If you figure a couple of Grand to get a new bike is worthwhile then do that...it's really a personal choice. With a new bike you will get ABS brakes and you might negotiate some extras from your dealer. You will get a warranty, new tires, brakes, the opportunity to break it in and put the first scratch on it.
But either way you will get the same grin from riding it.

Seems you can't find what you want used in your area so if you are in a hurry then you have your answer sitting at a dealer.

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1. Getting good prices on Used DL650's:

You just have to keep scouring the web and try your local newspaper and Trader magazines. They will show up and you just have to be ready to pull the trigger.

2. Buying used vs New:

This is certainly up to you however, a few things to consider.

A. DL650's are very reliable. So, I wouldn't worry about a few thousand miles on one. As long as it is maintained. As any motorized vehicle should be.

B. The New price is just the first thing to consider. Dealer prep and shipping are usually additional. Sales Tax (assuming your state has one) will cost you considerably more and insurance is more expensive.

C. Farkles: The odds are very high that if you really enjoy riding you will want a few farkles. e.g. hand-guards, heated grips, Bar Backs / Risers, better suspension, different or modified seat, luggage ( even if just for a weekend or shopping), different windshield, madstat bracket, and/or auxiliary lighting. And this just names a few. Your options are limited only buy your imagination and your wallet. These things, if added to your new bike get very expensive, very quickly. However, many of them are part of a used/pre-owned motorcycle. So you can save several hundred, or even thousands of dollars.

What I have learned from all my hobbies and past-times over the years is, the initial purchase price is just the beginning. Remember, why you may only plan to ride on Saturdays between 12:00 and 5:00pm and only when the weather is clear and between 60 and 80 degrees; life, circumstances and weather don't always agree with us OR the weatherman. You WILL hit a sudden rainstorm when you need to get home, you could have a sudden drop in temperature, decide to take a longer ride and suddenly you say to yourself "damn my hands are cold, wish I had a GPS, and my behind is sure sore ... wish I had a different seat, etc.. " Or you may simply make some new friends who like to ride for a few days or take motorcycle vacations. Suddenly you are doing things you never planned on. A good used bike could already have all those items you need on it ... at heavily discounted prices.

That is why a good used bike might be a much better and less expensive option.

Hope this helps.

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Some guy is trying to sell his 2009 bike which he dropped
I have no problem with buying a good used bike, even one that has been dropped, as long as the condition is good and the price is fair.

In addition to a very good look-over, ask the seller to ride the bike directly away from you in a straight line, then back to you in a straight line. Look closely and see if everything looks straight and he isn't fighting it to hold that straight line. If you get to test ride it, make that one of your tests.

Some sellers are OK with test rides. Some require that the prospective buyer have their riding gear, the motorcycle drivers license/endorsement, and cash in hand. Some don't allow a test ride before the money and paperwork changes hand. Clarify this ahead of time.

If buy new, save money and skip the extended warranty. If you feel the need for the extended warranty, save money and buy it from any Suzuki dealership on-line, or use the on-line price to negotiate with your local dealership. If you buy used, be sure that the seller is actually the same person as the owner listed on the title, and that the VIN on the bike matches the VIN on the title.

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The notion that buying new is somehow financially comparable to buying used is a delusion that can hook us all. If only a new bike will do for you, then go for it. Otherwise, I would just be patient and keep looking, and not make low miles a priority. I found my vee on craigslist for sale by a dealer and got a great deal.

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It would be interesting to know how many owners bought new versus used

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I found mine on Craigslist. It was in Eastern Washington and I got a very good deal on it. By the time I added up all the farkles I want to put on the bike, I will end up spending about $3500 on top of the purchase price. Luggage alone is about $1000. For me, buying new was too expensive given all that I plan to do with the bike. I'm planning on using it for extended road trips, so you may not want to purchase as many farkles. It's hard to find a used one with ABS, but they're out there. You have to be ready to pounce when they come up.

This is a short list of my farkles:


Jesse Odyssey Bags Xplorermoto: Jesse Luggage Odyssey II Bags
Richland Rick Mirror Extenders Richlandrick's Adventure-Tech LLC
Richland Rick Fork Brace Richlandrick's Adventure-Tech LLC
Sasquatch Suspension rebuild Suspensions by Sasquatch
Sasquatch fork springs Suspensions by Sasquatch
Handlebar risers TwistedThrottle.com : Handlebar riser barbacks & top clamps (BMW, Ducati, Gas-Gas, Honda, Kawasaki, KTM LC4, MZ, Suzuki, Triumph, Yamaha) - pair, 1" rise & 1" pullback - LEH.00.039.152
Stebel Air Horn TwistedThrottle.com : Stebel Nautilus Compact Dual-Tone 12-Volt Motorcycle Air Horn, 139 dB, Black or Chrome - Stebel
Stebel Air Horn Mount TwistedThrottle.com : Stebel Horn Mount for the V-Strom DL650 & DL1000 by TWISTED THROTTLE - HMT.05.821.10000
Air Horn Wiring Kit TwistedThrottle.com : Plug-N-Play wiring kit for Stebel Compact Nautilus Airhorns by Twisted Throttle - TT-00002
Richland Rick electrical deck Richlandrick's Adventure-Tech LLC
Denali Lights TwistedThrottle.com : Denali LED Lighting 2-Light Kit with Full Wiring Harness and M10 Mount - TT-D1.KIT + DL 650 bracket
Powerlet Cigarette Outlet Cigarette Socket Panel Mount Kit 48" - Powerlet Products

SW Motech Larger Foot Pegs TwistedThrottle.com : SW-MOTECH On-Road/Off-Road Footpegs (Aprilia SL750 Shiver '07-, Suzuki DL650 V-Strom '04-, BMW F800R '09-) - FRS.05.011.10000.S
SW Motech Highway Pegs/Clamp TwistedThrottle.com : SW-MOTECH Rally Crashbars/Engine Guards (Suzuki DL650 V-Strom, '04-) Scratch n Dent - SBL.05.674.10000.B.SND

Wolfman Explorer Lite Tankbag Wolfman Motorcycle Luggage
Wolfman Explorer Lite Rain Cover Wolfman Motorcycle Luggage
Warm & Safe Remote Heat Controller Single Remote Control Heat-troller [11108100] - $99.95 : Warm & Safe Heated Clothing and the Heat-troller for the Real Thing!

Madstad Bracket TwistedThrottle.com : MadStad Adjustable Windshield Mount (Suzuki DL650 & DL1000 V-Strom, '04-) - MAD.AWM-05
JC Whitney Top Case Motorcycle Travel Trunks - JCWhitney
SW Motech Crash Bars TwistedThrottle.com : SW-MOTECH Rally Crashbars/Engine Guards (Suzuki DL650 V-Strom, '04-) Scratch n Dent - SBL.05.674.10000.B.SND

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Thanks! Lots of useful stuff

To all of you - Thanks for posting all this helpful information.

I do have patience - the world will not end for me if the bike isn't bought right now. It is still winter, and I can always step in a dealer, put money on the table and get out with a new bike.

It just seems very hard to find (in the NYC area) Wees which are decent.
Buying used kind of worry me as I'm no mechanic, and honestly would not be able to see if a bike has a major issue other than looking for oil and other obvious issues.

Regarding farkles..one of my main hesitations to buy a new bike - heck, why not get a bike that is already farkled?
@Gitana: That is a keeper list!

Though to be honest, I like to keep the bike minimalist (and minimum weight too), and other than a better wind shield and seat not really in need of the other stuff.

The one thing that I do want is ABS, since I think it is a security device not a farkle. Having fallen in the past due to front wheel lock (on a sandy road) I would like to have it - it is my life on stake here, not just convenience.

The search goes on..thanks! You opinions really help.
Will let you guys know when there is a bike or a candidate.
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Fork Brace

Can you still buy a fork brace through Ricklandrick's Adventure Tech. I can't get through to order the part or make a payment.

If anybody has any ideas let me know. I would rather buy this part but will go with a SuperBrace or a KB Fork Brace. They may not be as good but at least you can order the part.

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All you have to do is send Rick an email to [email protected], or call him at 509-521-7040. His fork brace is the bomb. $80 plus shipping.
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