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post #1 of 11 Old 01-23-2011, 03:59 PM Thread Starter
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DL 1000 for a new rider

I am a new rider, (just since last May) My current bike is a '82 Yamaha Maxim 650. I am looking at a '04 DL1000 for my next bike so I can keep up with my wife on her Ninja. Is this a good next step? Also, maybe a stupid question, but what is the difference between a Wee and a Vee? Thanks.
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The Wee is 650cc, the V is 1000cc...check insurance costs as part of your decision making process

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I am a new rider, (just since last May) My current bike is a '82 Yamaha Maxim 650. I am looking at a '04 DL1000 for my next bike so I can keep up with my wife on her Ninja. Is this a good next step? Also, maybe a stupid question, but what is the difference between a Wee and a Vee? Thanks.
It also depends on the size of your wife's ninja, a DL-1000 should be reasonably able to keep up with a 600 ninja, but would probably have difficulty with the Zx-14. Have you sat on a 'Strom? it will be a little taller than your maxim.

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If you've only been riding a few months I'd recommend being very careful how you try to keep up with anyone.

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If you've only been riding a few months I'd recommend being very careful how you try to keep up with anyone.
You beat me to it.

TFlash, ride at your own damn pace, not your wife's, not your pal's, your own. Doing anything else as a new rider is a good way to be a dead rider.

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The Vee is a bad idea for a new rider. Heck. I think the Wee is too much bike for a new rider. As far as keeping up goes, you aren't racing, and 100kph is 100kph on a 250 or a 1000.

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If she's riding a 500 ninja, the answer is to go get some skills, my friend.

Stick with your bike until you've mastered it. Go take some lessons, do a track day or two. Remember, its not the bike. Its the rider. If you can't keep up with her on your current bike, its because you need some more attuned skills.

Save your money for msf courses, track days, etc.

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As others have said, "practice" - though I'll agree your current bike probably isn't helping matters.

While the DL 1000 probably does handle better than an '82 Yamaha (cruiser ?) it doesn't corner near as well as a Ninja , so unless it's all straight roads the result of you trying to "keep up" if your wife is pushing the Ninja hard will be you crashing.

The DL 650 corners a bit better, but still won't catch a good rider on a 600 sports bike on dry roads.

If your problem is just that your current bike corners and accelerates like a wheelbarrow full of rocks - rather than "your wife is a better rider than you". Then yes, either DL will probably work better than your current ride - but as above - if she makes a real effort she'll leave you behind on either - at near legal speeds though you'll probably find things a lot easier on the 650 than the 1000.

As far as differences go - ~ 20kgs and ~ 30hp, however the 1000 carries it's weight higher and doesn't corner as well. Up to around 120-140kph (60-70mph) 1-up the real performance difference isn't great. With more weight or higher speeds the 1000 is undoubtedly faster.
While a lot depends on the rider and bike setup, 1-up , windy roads and legal(ish) speeds the 650 is probably "quicker" A->B. With a load, 2-up, straight roads/high speeds the 1000 would be.


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1st Buy a good term life policy if you have kids 1.5 MM

2nd Have your wife buy a simple black dress, just over the knee

3rd I think an SV 650 more than a strom or perhaps just duplicate her bike whatever it is.

Now your all set to keep up

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post #10 of 11 Old 01-25-2011, 10:56 PM
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I went from a KLR 650 to the "V" (1000) last April. I had only been riding for a couple of years and was apprehensive about going so big. Although I haven't taken a safety course, I did read both Proficient Motorcycling books and practiced while I had the KLR. It helped me drastically, and enabled me to breeze through the driving portion of my motorcycle license test. I was actually going to buy the "wee" (650); however, I found a good deal on a 2007 "V" with low miles. Although I have not ridden the "wee," I am glad I got the bigger bike.

The "wee" will give you cheaper insurance rates, about 10 miles per gallon better efficiency and is said to be easier to ride in most situations. There also seems to be fewer quirks with the "wee," except that from 2006 or 2007 and on, you don't hear of too many issues with the bigger bike; I have had none with mine. The suspension on the bigger bike is also a little better.

Unless you are like me and tip the scales at over 1/8th of a ton, haul a lot of weight, do a lot of high-speed highway hauling (I think the bigger bike does better on the highway), or are just a power junkie (like me), I think the "wee" would be a great choice. You didn't specify which Ninja your cool wife rides, but the "wee" should do just fine in most situations.

As everyone before me said: There is no replacing training and experience in all areas of motorcycling, regardless of what you ride.

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