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post #1 of 24 Old 12-14-2010, 02:11 AM Thread Starter
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I have been looking at this forum for some time and I decided to finally register and post because I am strongly considering getting a DL 650 in the coming weeks. Before I really get ready to make the plunge I was hoping to get some decent advice on how to go about getting the right bike for my needs. My last bike was a GZ 250 - I loved it and took it everywhere but the engine just blew up on me - a valve broke off in the cylinder while trekking towards the pacific and the top end of the engine was completely destroyed. I really enjoyed having a cruiser and getting 65+ mpg, but I took it on a lot of fire roads around AZ and found that I was severely limited by the bike. As a result I have pretty much settled on a 650 Wee - I think it blends the ability to commute and adventure in a way that no other bike seems to (at least at the Wee's price point).

Anyways, my main question is how I should go about the purchasing process. I have spent the month and a half since losing my bike doing endless research and I really cannot decide whether I should look for a used bike or purchase a new bike from a dealer. I have a very limited budget so I have primarily focused on used bikes, but I have found a couple deals on 2009 Wee's for around 6000. Given that a decent used Wee will cost me in the ballpark of 4000 I am wondering if it's worth the additional investment to get a bike brand new. I am also planning on a cross country tour up to Alaska (I have for years, now I just need the vehicle), so the unlimited mileage on the warranty is extremely attractive. My GZ also quit, most likely, because of poor maintenance by the previous owner, so the idea of starting from a blank slate is attractive. Ultimately I am just wondering if I should be considering a new bike with the factory warranty or if I should just keep scanning the classifieds in the hopes that a good used bike will turn up.

I appreciate the advice and help, and I hope to be joining the ranks of V-Strom ownership shortly.
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post #2 of 24 Old 12-14-2010, 04:03 AM
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The DL's are generally so reliable that if you can find one, pre-owned, pre-farkled can be a very good buy.

The suspension is about the only weak point stock so spend the $ you save on suspension and you have a very solid machine.

I did buy new. but only because there weren't any second hand ones around when I was looking.

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If you need to finance, you'll probably be able to get a better loan rate on a new bike from the dealer.

That being said, pre-farkled bikes can be a super deal. I've not been actively looking, but there seems to be an abundance of low mile bikes on the market right now. If you see a bike with a Russel Day Long seat on it, don't hesitate too long. Don't be afraid to ask for maintanance receipts.

Things you'll probably want for a cross-country trip, in my order of importance:

Better Seat: $200-$800
Madstad Bracket and larger windsheild: $200-400
Fork Brace: $200
Center Stand: $500-$400
Luggage: $500-$1500
Suspension Upgrades: $200-The sky's the limit
Bar Risers: $100
Steering Stabilizer (Greywolf's #1 farkel) $400+
Skid Plate & Engine Guard (if you're doing much off-pavement you'll want the skid plate, most skid plates attach to engine guards): $400-$600

So in considering a bike that is pre-farkled, tally what it would cost to buy this stuff new..





I bought new in 2007 because I wanted an ABS bike. If I were in the market today, I'd definately consider a used bike. Another benefit of buying used is that you don't need to decide on which break-in procedure to follow.

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My last bike was a GZ 250 - I loved it and took it everywhere but the engine just blew up on me - a valve broke off in the cylinder while trekking towards the pacific and the top end of the engine was completely destroyed. I really enjoyed having a cruiser and getting 65+ mpg, but I took it on a lot of fire roads around AZ and found that I was severely limited by the bike.
My wife had a GZ250. I don't know what your expecting, but based on your previous experience I doubt that you'll be disappointed by the V-Strom.

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Steering Stabilizer (Greywolf's #1 farkel) $400+
It's true the Scott's steering stabilizer would absolutely prevented my tank slapper. A fork brace, lowering the front end on the fork tubes 7-15mm and keeping my speed to double digits almost certainly would have too. A fork brace as well performing as any out there is available for under $90. Rick's Fork Brace (Adventure Tech) and is now on my farkle list as #1.

That being said, even with me keeping my speed down, what the Scotts does on potholes and other road irregularities as well as being insurance against tank slappers is well worth my money. Peace of mind is priceless. It's my #2 for riders not pushing the envelope and tied for #1 for those who do.

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I would vote for the used bike. As noted the Vstrom is extremely reliable and even if something did go wrong it should be easy to fix. Save the money from new, look for one fully farkled used. The wee is a great bike but it needs alot to make it right and raise the performance of certain aspects. Stromin Normin tipped off on the idea of some upgrades and their costs. I had over 2k into mine right after buying it and it still needed another 2k to get it right IMO. Had I known how much it was going to cost to get it set up properly, I probably would have bought the Triumph Tiger 1050

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If you buy used (or new old-stock), I suggest a model with ABS brakes.

If you buy new, don't buy the extended warranty. These bikes are very unlikely to need the coverage.

Does anyone know if the U.S. new bike warranty covers repairs at a Canadian dealer while traveling?

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If you buy used (or new old-stock), I suggest a model with ABS brakes.
+1 and if you buy a non ABS I would recomend a 2007+ (some may disagree with that)

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I vote for getting a used bike. I had a GZ250 also. It was a good little bike, but the difference between them is night and day. Every once in a while I miss the GZ's MPG, but not too much. The Wee is just too much fun. I bought mine (2005 model) two months ago with 17K miles on it for $4K. It looks brand spankin' new. Came with a centerstand, quick release racks and Givi E41 hard bags, a Cee Bailey windshield, heated grips (and wind deflectors), and self-cancelling turn indicators. As per suggestions by others, use any leftover $$ for farkles. So far, I've put some SW Motech crash bars on mine. I'll ride it for a while and see what I think I need next.
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I bought a used 2004 in mid-2008. It had about 10,000kms on it. The previous owner had parked outside and done essentially no maintenance until he dropped it off at his friend's motorcycle shop (where I bought it) to sell. The shop (St. Catherine's Motorcycle Centre - good people) did a basic service. The tires were good and everything worked well. It was a significant saving as against the cost of a new 2008 at the time (taxes, prep, dealer costs etc), and I have no regrets.

The only service I've done on it has been for things that would not be warranty covered. Go used and use the leftover cash to deck it, or yourself, out.

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Do you really need all the suspension mods

These bikes are very good in stock form, unless you want to go motocrossing or circuit racing

A used, pre farkled Wee with ABS would be good value.
The bikes have a reputation for handling high mileage reliably [100,000+ miles on many of them].

If you buy new [or used for that matter] ride it for a while and work out what [if anything] you need to do to address what YOU are not happy with about the bike.

I bought 09 Wee ABS new and so far have added:-
Givi crash bars, fork brace, non stock larger rear rack, top box and panniers [also have saddlebags], centre stand.

Still to come:-
B&B bash plate, radiator guard.

I would be happy to ride my Wee forever in stock form without any mods if that was the only choice.

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