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post #1 of 11 Old 09-20-2010, 07:39 PM Thread Starter
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Vee or ST1100

In my ongoing quest for my next bike, I find myself once again pondering options. Saturday I drove past a nice used ST1100 for sale. It had around 35k, was very nice looking and well cared for, and was owned by a law enforcement officer. It was a '91 model year, had a backrest, but was otherwise stock. The price was $3500 firm.

I think its kind of fair to compare this bike to a Vee, as for my particular needs, they both have similar strong points. They are both nice handling, fairly powerful bikes built for comfort. And I just happen to have a brand new Corbin seat in the box in my storage shed, as well as a new tall windscreen. These are left from my old '95 ST1100.

For those who haven't seen my previous posts, my bike uses are commuting, weekend getaways around New England, and some long rides. I hope to get the chance to do some very long trips. I don't need off road ability. I do want luggage/cargo carrying ability, and some comfort for my wife when she wants to come with me.

Here are my pros and cons list:

ST1100:
Shaft drive- big pro!
Nice, big comfortable seat...for my big seat ;-) Pro.
I have some upgrade parts on hand: small pro.
Motor is smooth as silk, feels electric smooth: Pro.
Bigger passenger seat: Pro.
Older styling, though still looks decent...small con.
Carbs, though they work well on an ST, con.
Decent suspension, but not as forgiving on our very rough local roads: Con.

Vee:
Fuel injection- Pro.
Nice styling- Pro.
Better suspension for our very rough northern NH roads: Pro.
Chain drive- big CON.
From what I hear, not the smoothest engine: small con.
Smaller passenger seat: con (my wife would say BIG con)

The way I see it, the ST would be the better choice when my wife is with me, but the Vee would be more fun solo. With the Vee, she could jump on for a trip to the beach for the weekend, but on the ST, she could come with me for several long days. I like the low maintenance shaft drive and the electric motor feeling of the ST, but the Vee has injection, and would be much newer.

Thoughts?

Jim

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post #2 of 11 Old 09-20-2010, 07:56 PM
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So, your budget is $3,500?

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post #3 of 11 Old 09-20-2010, 08:34 PM Thread Starter
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Definitely not. But it was a nice bike for a nice price. It wouldn't even have to be *that* st1100...I was just comparing the two models in general. Because of their age, you can find a nice, well cared for st1100 for very little money.

But even at that price...I have seen nice Vees starting at $3500. So the price isn't really a comparing factor...I don't really have a budget at all. I'm making good money now, and I want to make sure I buy the exact bike that would fit my needs this time. If I wanted a $18k BMW, I'd save for one of those...but I don't like what has happened to their quality recently.

There is a part of me that wants to check out the new ST1300s, but they have gone a bit too far, and are more like mini Gold Wings.

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The ST is a nice used bike especially 2 up highway riding. I think you've identified the pros and cons well. Having said that I wouldn't buy a used bike with 35k miles on it, Strom or ST, unless I was really constrained by budget. The Stroms are cheap enough that for just a couple thousand more you could get one almost new. More riding, less wrenching.

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I had 2 different ST1100's and put close to 75k on each. I have never owned anything as trouble free as those bikes. Never had anything beyond normal maintainance on both bikes. On the second one I replaced the shock with a Koni and it really transformed the bike. I wouldn't be concerned with the mileage, but the age would concern me. A 1991 is 20 years old and I'm sure that the hoses, brake lines, seals and other rubber items have aged to the point where they could start failing. If your going to any long distances you might want to keep that in mind. Me, I'd look for a newer ST1300. There's some really good deals available right now.
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35k on an ST1100 is just broken in. My buddy just rode to Belize on his 1993 with 200k on it, and another guy i know in Long Beach had over 325k on his.
My vote for on road riding mainly is the ST by far as I came from them. The shaft drive easy maintenance and reliability is the reason i just put my order in for a Super Tenere.

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I had a '93 ST and put 76,000 miles on it. No maintenance issues (still running strong for the guy who bought it from me) and my wife was sad when I sold it. I have a BMW K1200RS and Vstrom. Both bikes are great, but my wife does not have near as much room on the V as she does on the BMW, although both bikes have a back rest for her. If she is going to ride along, we end up taking the BMW.
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Two different categories of machines. That why I have both a Wee and a ST1300. + a KLR for the real dirty rides. You have had a ST 1100 before so you know about the pros and cons of the ST. need do decide what type of riding you want to do with it. Good luck on your choice. Can't go wrong with either for the right type of riding.

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I rode one last month while looking for my vee. It's one heavy mo fo fo show.
If you want a mini gold wing then it is a bike for you. Do some research into the heat problems too.
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I always worry about the electronics on a bike that is about 20 years old. That stuff can be pricey to fix.
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