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post #1 of 6 Old 08-01-2010, 12:03 AM Thread Starter
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Question V Strom 1000 or Veradero?

Hi All,

After test riding several bikes (The Ducati Multistrada is brutally powerful, if that's your thing...) I've narrowed my choice down to either the 1000 V-Strom or the Honda Veradero.

Of course both dealers have said their respective brands were better than the other guy, so that's no help.

I thought the engine and powertrain were better on the Honda but didn't much like the linked brakes or lack of instrumentation (i.e. no gas gauge). The V-Strom felt more buzzy and the engine wasn't as tractible, not as intuitive to ride as the Honda. The Honda felt better on the road, the Suzuki more primitive.

I've had neither in the dirt or in the rain, so don't know how they handle when things are slippery.

I've owned about a dozen bikes during my 30+ years riding, for the road everything from a CH150 Elite scooter to a ST1100 and I realize that the "perfect" bike for me probably doesn't exist; it usually comes down to what you are willing to compromise on. In this particular case I am at a loss as to which one of the two I'll get (if I was wealthy I'd own both!).

Can anyone help me with some pros and cons of the V-Strom vs. the Veradero? I'm stuck!

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post #2 of 6 Old 08-01-2010, 12:15 AM
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The Honda has a much better fit and finish. I think its a decent looking bike and they have been deeply discounting them which in a lot of cases makes them almost competitive with the V-Strom 1000. That would be a real tough decision. There are very few of the Honda's around and it won't have the aftermarket the strom has and resale may be suspect. They were very popular in Europe but have not done well here. Reported as feeling top heavy by many riders.
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The Honda has a much better fit and finish. I think its a decent looking bike and they have been deeply discounting them which in a lot of cases makes them almost competitive with the V-Strom 1000. That would be a real tough decision. There are very few of the Honda's around and it won't have the aftermarket the strom has and resale may be suspect. They were very popular in Europe but have not done well here. Reported as feeling top heavy by many riders.
i can only speak for van... in germany and most people complained about them being to tall and hard to fit. Also they don't fit very well in the urban area and most people prefer smaller bikes here. (Insurance reasons)

But yes the hondas are beautiful, but if my memory is right on quite more expensive.
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I'm curious about the Veradero, and have had my DL-1000 for a couple of years, and still love it.

PRICING
The 2010 Veradero is $1300 LESS than the 2009!
From $14k5 to $13k2.
Haven't dug into the details to see if they cut features or not, but that's interesting.
On Suzuki's site, I see that they've removed the pricing on the vStrom, which was in the $13k range too.

BASICS
Both bikes are spec'd very similarly.
The vStrom clunks like a Harley going 1st to 2nd, but otherwise the transmission is pretty OK. And I think that's the bike's weak spot. But the bike "loosens up" a lot in the first few thousand miles.

OTHER CONSIDERATIONS
So, the size, features, and pricing is very similar.
Not surprising, given the dual-sports are the only sector of the M/C market that is growing.
But there are 2 big factors:
* Options for the vStrom are plentiful and reasonably priced, letting you start with a factory bike and make it your-own spec bike.
* Resale. While sport-bikes and cruisers plummet in value, I bought a new bike because I couldn't find a used one cheaper. The Suzuki vStrom might have the lowest cost-of-ownership of any bike when you figure in how much you can get back in a few years.
I have no data to go on for the Veradero. It should hold its value, but being "unknown" there might be a smaller re-sale market, and hence lower prices.

FINAL WORD
Drive em both, and buy the one that feels best to YOU.
Consider advice from others, but you're buying it for yourself foremost, not to impress anyone else. (if that was your aim, you'd be joining the cruiser hoards)

Good luck, and let us know what you pick (And why!)

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Daryl, over here in europe the V-strom is known to be a high quality bike for which you pay a premium. The Strom has a very good reputation against any of the competition's genre. The Varadero is a nice bike but really doesn't come close to the V-Strom in a number of areas.

1. The Varadero has a similar finish to the Strom and in europe is not thought to be better in that department;

2. The Varadero is massively heavy compared to the V-Strom 1000, an extra 82 odd pounds heavier. This is due to the old style steel frame and cycle parts that rust so well over here on a salty winter roads;

3. The engine is ok, but lacks performance from it's just 92bhp engine and torque is down too. Gearbox is ok but not exceptional either;

4. Handling is fine but slower than the V-Strom due to weight and frame angles being different to handle the weight;

5. In europe, servicing cost of the Honda are mega high compared to a strom.

Overall, the Honda is a very minority bike and a bit of a non event. I speak as someone who has worked on one and ridden one for 24hrs non stop. It was great to get back on my Strom. The difference is stark!

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I'm a pretty big fan of Honda. I really wish that Africa Twin was sold in the USA....

However, I would probably go with the Strom. It has a 'raw' look that I like better, MPG is better, and I have heard the Honda is takes a good bit of damage on even a simple fall down. Also, it seems like the aftermarket is better for the Strom.

You can't really go wrong. Get the bike that moves you and ride happy.

See http://whiskeytangohotel.com/gpi
to build your own V-Strom GPI and save, save, save!
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