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post #1 of 8 Old 07-01-2010, 08:42 PM Thread Starter
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Hi everyone!
I'm in the market and I'm certain the Strom is the bike for me.
After obsessively (like it was my job) reading ADVRider, VSRI, a little ST.N and of course, this site for nearly a month as an unregistered lurker I still haven't really read what satisfies my sole remaining question. Yeah, yeah *blush* its a derivitive of the *so* over-discussed Liter v. Pint debate. But it's not what you think. It's actually pretty specific.
Some background: I've been riding dirt and racing for 25 years, nearly my whole life. I've ridden street for almost 15 years, and I put almost 80,000 miles on my beloved '03 FJR before she got totaled 4 weeks ago. I tour, solo. I day ride somewhat regularly 2-up, dayrides, rare overnights. I'm not fond of slab, but I see it a necessary evil. I have plans to ride dirt, maybe roads that you'd take your 2wd Ford F150 on, and not much more. I weight 200ish and am tall enough that seats a a non issue. my S.O. isn't small, but not big. Coughcough150coughcough.
The next bike in my garage when I'm ready in a few months will be a DL. I've read ride reports, debates, arguments and pissing contents. so 650 or 1000?

So everything so far points to the 650... but I have a benchmark that a bike *must* pass before I own it. I live in CO. In the last 6 years living here I've found a few roads that almost crippled some bikes. One of these is the Loveland Pass on I-70. it's 10+ miles of 65mph, 7% grade that crosses Eisenhower Tunnel at 11.2K ft. It's as hard on a bike as any hill I've found on the interstate system.

So here's the question: I'm not silly enough to think it's gonna flatten it like the FJR did, but I once borrowed a Shadow 750 that barely held 65 on ththat stretch. Will a Wee take this hill, 2-up with enough power to pass? Not, scream by cars at 90+, but maybe 70-75?

I'd like ABS. I like that there are probably 100 Wee's for sale within 1k miles of my house. There's probably 8-10 Vee's. But I really just want to have a bike I enjoy and don't have to flog mercilessly on Rocky Mtn. passes. Everyone says the Wee is much more 'fun' to ride, but is it enough HP for the thin air here?

Any observations regarding the Wee's performance are greatly appreciated.

Thanks! and great site!
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post #2 of 8 Old 07-01-2010, 08:59 PM
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The DL650 has about 65hp, and the DL1000 about 90. The FJR is pushing around 150. I've been through the Loveland Pass many years ago (not on a bike) and I wouldn't want to try it 2-up on a 650.

There are probably people here who have done it and would be better informed than me. I only ride solo and while I've been at 10,600' it was on a DL1000 and not my 650. FWIW I didn't notice any significant difference in power on that ride from virtually sea level to Cedar Breaks National Monument at 10.6k.

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Why not rent one and see if it does the job? http://www.rentmotorcyclescolorado.com/

Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. I didn't quite make it to 17,000 miles on the 2012 DL650A.
Nicknames I use to lessen typing, Vee = 2002-2012 DL1000s. Vee2=2014-2016 DL1000s. Wee = 2004-2011 DL650s. Glee = 2012-2016 DL650s
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Hi, DeeCee.

My 2006 Wee-Strom is named Colorado. It is red, and has a VIN ending 1876,
which is the year Colorado became The Centennial State, so it earned its
name. It wears a Colorado badge, and its name on the left fairing.

I rode it from Toronto Ontario to Colorado in 2006, and it performed flawlessly.

Heading to Denver on I-76, I was passed by a crotch rocket,
which made the familiar Doppler sound as it zoomed by:
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaa

I thought, "Well, I will just grab me a handful of fast and see what that is".
Full throttle quickly brought my heavily loaded bike to 116 MPH indicated,
but sure enough the crotch rocket was still diminishing ahead of me.
I relaxed and wished the quicker rider well, and never saw him or her again.

Later that day the bike brought me to Berthoud Pass, elevation 11315 ft.
http://cyclepass.com/t_p_Berthoud.html
The Wee-Strom was totally happy at that altitude.
I didn't test the bike's acceleration on the way up,
because I was just riding along enjoying the lovely scenery.

====2006====2007====2008====2009====2010====

I now have a 17-tooth front sprocket in this bike (15 is stock), yet it will still
accelerate uphill in top gear, carrying over 400 pounds of people and luggage.

Now Colorado is four years old, and has carried me 58000 miles, to ten provinces and 38 states. In June 2010, it carried me from Florida to Colorado and back. As always, it performed flawlessly, and generally got over 50 MPG while going about 75 MPH on I-70 and other Interstate highways.

I remain delighted with my purchase, my second Suzuki.
If I manage to wear Colorado out, I will surely get another Wee-Strom.

So you see, the tales of versatility, economy, and reliability are mostly true.
I predict that a Wee-Strom will serve you well, in Colorado and outside it.

Keith

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Wow, Nice response Keith. You pretty much nailed the question I asked.
I was pretty sure that a Wee would do the job, it has double the HP (and FI) of the little Shadow I delivered to a friend, but in a land where 11k+ passes and 7% uphill grades with switchbacks are common (Loveland, Berthoud, Monarch, Wolf Creek, Independance...) I had to ask. I've read several of Base Camp's Ride Reports and he and Mrs. Base Camp seem to do just fine on the Wee in the upper elevations of AZ.

I guess now I watch and wait for a good buy to come along in either displacement, but don't have to rule out the Wee with its superior MPG and appealing ABS option.

I'd still love to hear others' input.

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I guess now I watch and wait for a good buy to come along in either displacement, but don't have to rule out the Wee with its superior MPG and appealing ABS option.

I'd still love to hear others' input.
Go for the Wee.

I keep typing in the fact that I traded a BMW R1150GS in on my Wee so often I'm going to save it in a Word file so I can just cut and paste in to a post when I reply to topics like this.

My original thought was that a Wee would not have enough "go" after the GS.
Not the case though as the bike is lighter than the Beemer and certainly does the job, loaded with camping gear for two weeks or two up is no problem at all.

I have put over 21,000km on the bike now and it just keeps getting faster as the engine beds in even more.
Constantly I feel the front wheel lifting when I take off at traffic lights quickly due to moron tin tops who find the need to try and "nudge" you because you got to the front of the queue ahead of them.

Great mileage, great performance, ABS, and handles the multi tasking roles of commute/tour/have fun rides.

Vee or Wee, you won't look back.
But the Wee IS better :flaming_devil:
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Hi everyone!
So everything so far points to the 650... but I have a benchmark that a bike *must* pass before I own it. I live in CO. In the last 6 years living here I've found a few roads that almost crippled some bikes. One of these is the Loveland Pass on I-70. it's 10+ miles of 65mph, 7% grade that crosses Eisenhower Tunnel at 11.2K ft. It's as hard on a bike as any hill I've found on the interstate system.

So here's the question: I'm not silly enough to think it's gonna flatten it like the FJR did, but I once borrowed a Shadow 750 that barely held 65 on ththat stretch. Will a Wee take this hill, 2-up with enough power to pass? Not, scream by cars at 90+, but maybe 70-75?
Thanks! and great site!
I don't have a DL650. However, I have an SV650 (similar engine) which I've had for many years. I also have a DL1000 and a Yamaha FZ1. I use the DL1000 for longer rides (sport touring) - I didn't even consider the 650 for this because I knew I wanted the extra power for passing, mountain riding, and generally relaxed cruising at high speeds. And I don't ride 2-up. Sure, the DL650 will do it all and I'm not knocking it. I'm just saying that for my use, the DL1000 is the one.

I guess I'm just suggesting you consider the larger engine. If you can test ride each, it would be great - and perhaps the benefits of the 1000 (for this use) will be more obvious.

With your experience, I'm sure whatever decision you make will be just fine.

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I don't have a DL650. However, I have an SV650 (similar engine) which I've had for many years. I also have a DL1000 and a Yamaha FZ1. I use the DL1000 for longer rides (sport touring) - I didn't even consider the 650 for this because I knew I wanted the extra power for passing, mountain riding, and generally relaxed cruising at high speeds. And I don't ride 2-up. Sure, the DL650 will do it all and I'm not knocking it. I'm just saying that for my use, the DL1000 is the one.

I guess I'm just suggesting you consider the larger engine. If you can test ride each, it would be great - and perhaps the benefits of the 1000 (for this use) will be more obvious.

With your experience, I'm sure whatever decision you make will be just fine.

Bill K.
exact same situation for me, my SVis in parts engine is out of bike, bike has been semi-permently resting on my eazyrizer bike lift, my first project after I get my Vee all farkled

Although I've only done a few documented IBA rides (SS, BB, BBG), when I go on a riding vacation, I like to check out an area and get there and back quickly,

back to the op's question

theres no question, the 650 can go there and back,

as far as the specific question, of Loveland Pass, 2up, if you downshift to probably 4th at the bottom of the 7% grade you will be able to maintain a 75mph pace , if your going slower than that, will you be able to accelerate to that, doubtful.

even with the Vee, you'll have to downshift if your going slower than 80



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