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post #1 of 12 Old 04-26-2010, 03:37 PM Thread Starter
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Another C50 to Wee

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Short time lurker and first time poster. I read a previous thread about a guy thinking of selling a C50 for a Wee. I am in the same boat! I started off my riding experience in 2007 on a 2006 Suzuki Boulevard C50 which I rode to Deal's Gap on and used as a commuter to and from college. Now that I have some years of experience with it an miles under my belt, I am looking for something "else" and the Vstrom 650 seemed to fit the bill! I have some questions about the crossover that I wish to ask.

1. My fair share of riding will be around the streets and maybe a few times a year I will hit up some tame dirt roads. From what I read here, as long as I do not attempt serious off-roading I am ok right? I don't plan on making this the sole objective of the bike, just maybe a once a year thing job permitting.

2. I don't want to start a flame war, but it also seems like I would want to look for at least a 2007 model and if possible a 2008 to get the alternator upgrade.

3. I plan to buy a Wee used from Craigslist. Around the Chicago area, these bikes are not too common. I hope listings improve as the temperatures go up!

4. I am 5'10" tall and although the dealer by me did not have any Vstroms on the lot, I sat on a Versys and a KLR650 for comparison purposes. The Versys was perfect seating height, but with the KLR it was awkwardly high. I barely kept the bike level with my tip-toes!

5. The cruiser had a really laid back seating position which was very comfortable on the highway. Is the standard seating position on the Wee just as good?

6. What are the first items I should look to get on the bike? I am thinking that if they are not there yet: centerstand (invaluable on my vintage bikes!), crashbars and handguards (just for looks :mrgreen: ).

7. If the buyer of my cruiser does not want my current soft saddlebags, are they compatible with Wee? They are Kuryakyn GranThrowover bags. Do I need to get some sort of "saddlebag stays" for them?

Sorry for the multitude of Q's. Thanks in advance!!!

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post #2 of 12 Old 04-26-2010, 11:35 PM
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My brother has a C50, and we've traded off during rides in the hills. We're making an apples/oranges comparison here.

The Wee will do fine on reasonably smooth unsurfaced or gravel roads (but a high CG, especially with a full tank). We had no problems with the C50, either (low CG), but the choice of tires will make a huge difference.

I'm 5'9", 29" inseam, and the Wee is really taller than I would wish, but manageable. I'm most comfortable shifting my butt to the left a bit as I come to a stop.

The seating positions of the two bikes are simply different. I find both to be reasonably comfortable. Try it before you buy it--there are those who like it, others who simply find the Wee seat uncomfortable. There are aftermarket solutions if you find yourself getting monkey butt during long rides, but most are expensive.

Depending on how tall you sit in the saddle and what helmet you wear, you may or may not want to make changes to the wind screen mounts and/or the wind screen. Other functional items include the hand guards (for a lot more than looks if you ride in cold weather), fork brace and a real horn. A lot of us also invest in crash bars.

I'm not familiar with your bags, but to mount mine, I made a "stand off bar" for the left side of the bike out of aluminum bar stock and painted it black. Several plans are to be found on this site.

My personal opinion? I like my Wee a whole lot more than my brother's C50!
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I put about 10k miles on a C50, they are great bikes. Totally different than the wee. Even with a smaller engine (650cc vs 800) the wee is a lot faster, producing more horsepower plus the bike geometry and riding position allow it. I think the standard riding position of the wee is inherently more ergonomic than the laid back cruiser position, but it's dependent somewhat on personal preference and I have to say with a mustang seat on my C50 it was pretty comfortable.

Overall I greatly prefer the Wee. More fun to ride, way more versatile, more smiles per mile.

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I went from a 2005 C-50 Limited to my current 2008 DL650 and although the "Bully' was a great bike, for it's intended purpose, I haven't missed it at all. But I did have to get rid of my pirate costume and associated HD wannabe paraphenalia...........
The Strom is much more versatile, comfortable and fun to ride.

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Thanks guys! I took the big plunge and posted my C50 on Craigslist. Until I get the bike sold I will continue lurking on CL for a Wee Strom without making offers. Since my options are kinda limited at this point, I will start off hoping for at least an '07 but settle for an '06 if I am desperate.

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Thanks guys! I took the big plunge and posted my C50 on Craigslist. Until I get the bike sold I will continue lurking on CL for a Wee Strom without making offers. Since my options are kinda limited at this point, I will start off hoping for at least an '07 but settle for an '06 if I am desperate.
Hold out for at least an 07' as they have the dual-plug heads and some other improvements over the 06'. O8's have a larger alternator and everything seems dialed in-real well.......

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So I realize you've already made the decision, but I thought that as someone who has a Marauder (predecessor to the C-50 - essentially the same bike) in the garage next to his wee, I would chime in with some words of encouragement.

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1. My fair share of riding will be around the streets and maybe a few times a year I will hit up some tame dirt roads. From what I read here, as long as I do not attempt serious off-roading I am ok right? I don't plan on making this the sole objective of the bike, just maybe a once a year thing job permitting.

Once you get this thing on dirt roads, it's likely you'll want to do it more than once a year.

2. I don't want to start a flame war, but it also seems like I would want to look for at least a 2007 model and if possible a 2008 to get the alternator upgrade.

3. I plan to buy a Wee used from Craigslist. Around the Chicago area, these bikes are not too common. I hope listings improve as the temperatures go up!

Keep an eye on the listings on this site and advrider.com as well. You'll see some good deals, I'm sure. And because those ads are targeted at a knowledgeable audience, the prices are usually fair.

4. I am 5'10" tall and although the dealer by me did not have any Vstroms on the lot, I sat on a Versys and a KLR650 for comparison purposes. The Versys was perfect seating height, but with the KLR it was awkwardly high. I barely kept the bike level with my tip-toes!

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Wee is a bit higher than the Versys. It's been a while since I sat on one. Still, if you've got a 30" inseam or better then you should have no problem. Many people like to lower the front of the Strom for the positive effects it has on handling anyway. The bonus side-effect of this is the lower seating position. That adjustment is widely known as one of the best cost-free modifications, and it only takes about five minutes to do. There are also lowering links available for the back if you really need them. They're pretty affordable

5. The cruiser had a really laid back seating position which was very comfortable on the highway. Is the standard seating position on the Wee just as good?

I think the C-50 had an upgraded seat over my Marauder. The seat on the Marauder was hell on the coccyx, but the upright seating position as compared to many other cruisers is pretty nice. Still, the more "proper" posture of the strom is far more comfortable, IMO.

6. What are the first items I should look to get on the bike? I am thinking that if they are not there yet: centerstand (invaluable on my vintage bikes!), crashbars and handguards (just for looks :mrgreen: ).

These are choices only you can make, but I'll throw in my $.02. I don't have a centerstand, but that's absolutely next on the list for me. My crashbars have paid for themselves three times over, and not because I do any rough off-road riding. I've laid the bike down twice in my driveway. With a bike this tall and top-heavy, low speed drops are common; crashbars make that okay. My handguards have only been of any consequence in cold/wet weather. If I had to do it all over again, the forkbrace and bar risers would have been the first additions after the crashbars. That's just me though. Poke around the site here and you'll find a ton of great info on accessories. This is one of my favorite threads on that topic.

7. If the buyer of my cruiser does not want my current soft saddlebags, are they compatible with Wee? They are Kuryakyn GranThrowover bags. Do I need to get some sort of "saddlebag stays" for them?

Those look like they may work. They can rest directly on the exhaust shield on the right side, but you'll need some kind of bracket to keep them out of the wheel on the left. Many have made their own out of a simple piece of aluminum stock. I've got Dan Vessel's luggage guard and love it for my soft bags.

Sorry for the multitude of Q's. Thanks in advance!!!
Best of luck selling the C-50 and finding your Strom!

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Thanks guys!
I still don't have any bites on the C50 but I know the fish are studying the bait! I have had some co-workers ask for the CL ad because they have "some friend" looking for a nice used cruiser.

However I have some nice offers on Wee Stroms in the area! I am meeting up with GreyWolf this weekend to get an inside scoop on the 650 before dealing with potential sellers.


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You won't find better advice anywhere than direct from GW. He's a class guy and a walking encyclopedia when it comes to these bikes. I can't think of any better swami to guide you. Post up some pics when you take the plunge!

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I would like to give an awesome shoutout to GreyWolf for all his advice on things Vstrom. I learned a lot from meeting with him and I was even treated to a test ride. I fell in love with the bike and the suspension and power on the bike is perfect. The height was not as high as I imagined it would be. I can now focus on checking out some available used wee stroms!

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