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post #1 of 18 Old 01-03-2010, 09:55 PM Thread Starter
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Wee Strom versus the Beamer

No BS, I'm sliding down that path of inevitability--purchasing my second bike and it's gonna be a mid-weight touring bike with slightly nasty off-road habits. Looks like a Wee Strom or a Beamer, probably a F650GS. Got to have some help here and I know it's a Wee-Vee crowd.
Nice bang for the buck, the Wee, but the BMW is sweet and the marquee slams the Wee.
My bike will need a bit of dirt, probably 70-30 road/trail and it won't be single-track-wild, but something more mild. Lots of solitude in the desert and the only way is to get back in there on 2 wheels, where the Jeeps won't go.
Some nice deals now on the Wee. Thoughts?
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post #2 of 18 Old 01-03-2010, 10:16 PM
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Go sit on them both. Ergos can help your decision. Test ride if possible. Pick one, buy it and ride it. If it doesn't work out, sell it and buy the other.
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I have ridden the f650gs, my dl650 is a far better road bike; smoother, more responsive. I haven't taken the gs in the dirt, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's better behaved off road than the dl. The wee is fine for gravel roads and decently maintained packed dirt, but it ain't no dirt bike, though I will bow humbly to those that can ride it like it is. (cue bowing emoticon)

That, and about $0.02 is about all I can offer on the comparison. :biggrinjester:

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When it comes to dirt weight is a big disadvantage
A old KLR 650,dr650 whatever is going to be better than either of these bikes

In other words
For road the wee is sweet for hard dirt roads that jeep wont'go get a desent dirt bike. Forget BMW they still haven't got it right .

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post #5 of 18 Old 01-04-2010, 07:57 AM
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Graham,

May not be the best spot to post this, but are you effected by the flooding at all? looks pretty bad.

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post #6 of 18 Old 01-04-2010, 08:36 AM
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Raygunner,
Thanks for posting the question. I am sliding down the same path....
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F650GS vs. Wee

I own a 2008 DL650 ABS and I love my Wee...BUT I have also put about 2500 miles (each) on both the "old" (single cylinder 650 cc) and the "new" (twin cylinder 800cc) F650GS. The Wee is a much better road bike than the "old" F650, but the "new" F650GS is a pretty close match to the DL650. NOTE: If you are looking at used bikes for riding mostly on the road I would argue against the "old" F650GS in favor of the V-Strom. The decision between a V-Strom and the "new" (twin) F650GS is much less clear to me.
Plusses and minuses (in my opinion):
650 V-Strom: Plus= Smooth engine that pulls well for a 650, good (upright) ergonomics (I'm 5'9'' and 170#), fun to ride, good room for two-up riding, decent weather "coverage", lots of aftermarket stuff available to fix "issues."
Minus= "Issues" most people tackle: Seat, windscreen, lack of centerstand. "Issues" you live with: not the lightest bike, cross-winds can upset the handling, some people don't like the styling.
"New" F650GS: Plus= Nice power, remarkably smooth for a parallel twin, OK room for two-up riding, nice (upright) ergonomics (very simlar to the Wee), fun to ride. Wind in the face fun. Some people have a strong pro-BMW view.
Minus= Lack of weather "coverage", the BMW 800cc engine doen't have the long and positive track record of the Suzuki 650cc engine.
My thoughts are similar to the approach of "Buy one of them, ride it, if you don't like it....sell it and buy the other." The biggest difference is that the DL650 will give you more protection from bad weather, but you pay the price in that it feels a little heavier and is probably a little more sensative to cross-winds because it has a larger surface area when viewed from the side. Of course that larger surface is also what keeps the rain, etc. off of you. I think you'd be happy with either bike.
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I... cross-winds can upset the handling,...

... probably a little more sensative to cross-winds because it has a larger surface area when viewed from the side. ...
I would like to point out that, for many people, any issue of cross winds largely disappears when the front of the bike is lowered/forks are raised. This is a free modification and can be easily reversed if desired.

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only half

you are only getting half of the story here. I happen to like BMW products, and it's only since getting the wee that I have I learned about some issues regarding the BMW's. I had always assumed that they were the best designed, most durable bikes around. Since my ownership of the Zook, Ive learned this is not nessarily the case.

So where does the BMW price premium come from then?

ADVrider.com is a great forum which caters to all makes and types of adventure bikes. Read over there what owners are reporting about the F800 and F650, and draw your own conclusions ( sorry if I've forshadowed too much).

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post #10 of 18 Old 01-04-2010, 09:55 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for all your replies. I lean towards the Wee, based on my gut, my instinct, great info supplied by guys like you, and the nearly 75 year old man I talked to Friday down in Borrego Springs, Ca. who said the Wee ('05 DL650) was if not the best bike he'd ever owned, one of he top two or three, out of 60. When he cruised out of the parking lot and squeezed on the gas it sounded right, it looked right, and that was that.
Now, I need to scrape up some cash and go get that bad boy...
(No flooding down in Los Angeles County, but thanks for asking...)
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