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post #1 of 31 Old 10-28-2009, 02:25 PM Thread Starter
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Gut check... V-Strom or do I go full ST (FJR)

Don't you hate it when you can't make such serious life decisions?

So my dilemma, before I go drop serious cash on a new (to me) bike, is whether or not to run with what I thought I wanted (Wee), or go to a full on ST bike like the FJR.

My goal is to start putting serious miles on whatever I get. We will 2-up occasionally, but we are not large people, and weight really wouldn't be an issue. But, serious miles for me means a fair share of slab time, and right now I loathe all slab because I am nekkid on my little GS. I also am not a person who needs a lot of powars. I've had sportbikes and standards, but never a "DS" (if you want to call the Wee that) or an ST. So I know from lots of power to not lots. Hell, I drive a Miata, I know all about not lots. I just need to be comfortable on the trip. I'm not looking to haul azz.

So, the bottom line is: I'm really not sure about fire trails/dirt roads, I want to be comfortable in as standard a position as possible, and I want to be able to go the distance.

I realize I'm presenting this question on the Strom board, so answers may be biased. But I am hopeful to hear it anyhow.

FWIW: 5'8" 190. Shorter legs built like a musclebrick. (genetics are fun) Wife is also 5'8" around 140. I'm not super concerned with flatfooting.

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post #2 of 31 Old 10-28-2009, 02:45 PM
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Well for what it's worth my wife and I are nearly identical physically to you guys.

We've ridden from Indiana to Cape Breton and Route 66 from Chicago to Oklahoma city and back to Indiana. So for use the DL1000 can go the distance.

For the sport part of your desires the DL is perfectly capable, in fact her foot pegs drag before mine.

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I'd get the FJ if you're planning long highway miles 2-up. It's a better design for that use. The Wee is an excellent bike, but it's more multi-purpose than dedicated ST.

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post #4 of 31 Old 10-28-2009, 02:59 PM
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get a Vee

I do lots of 2-up with similar sized bodies. The Vee can is fine for long highway distances and has taken me successfully along some marginally ok backroads where I should never have gone in the first place. I refer to it as a mulitpurpose bike; not to be confused with a dual purpose. Essentially a Vstrom is a great ride on any public roadway.

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serious miles for me means a fair share of slab time
Sport touring. The new Honda NT700V looks really's your price negotiating skills?

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post #6 of 31 Old 10-28-2009, 04:19 PM Thread Starter
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So I see you guys are giving a pretty decent endorsement to the Vee for the 2 up highway. How is the wind protection issue as a matter of comfort? I see plenty of talk here about windscreens, adjustments, widening mirrors, etc. Is it correctable if need be or am I going to be fighting the good fight at speed? Or is this a YMMV situation?

Sidebar: how is it 2-up? How much change in wind dynamics do you see?

The NT700V looks great. But it is all kinds of fail at that weight. It's nearly the same weight (wet) as the FJR and 1/2 the displacement and less than half the power. WTH?

I know I mentioned I powars are not as important, but the NT makes no sense other than price.
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I've looked, but the V-Strom (I have the wee) just seems to be better all around for me. BUT I have yet to take a multi day trip. It took my three years to get the correct seat under my bum . Hopefully next April, if the snow clears in time :-)

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Ive heard reports from FJ riders that the engine heat is bad during hot weather. But, extremely fast. If 2up is going to be significant, get the V1000.
You may need to get a custom built seat to do multi day trips on the V or Wee. The FJ is on road only, but the Strom does gravel very well, just no bad dirt or sand (too heavy) Good luck!

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I think you will find that either V-Strom, whether a DL650 or a DL1000, is more than capable of doing the job.

If your two-up speeds are generally less than about 85 mph you shouldn't have any issues with either. If you routinely ride two up at higher speeds than that you will certainly appreciate the extra power of the DL1000.

What I love about the V-Strom package is the ability to do days of super-slabbing and then really enjoy the twisties, back roads and not be concerned about a bit of gravel now and then.

As 568V8 said previously, it isn't so much limited to being a dual purpose bike but is more of a multipurpose bike. The Stroms are pretty much whatevery you want them to be.


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Well I have both... an 04 DL1000 and an 08 FJR. The Vee is my favorite bike, in fact it is my all-time favorite bike, so in my case if one had to go the FJR would get the boot first. They are definitely different bikes. I thrash my Vee off-road almost as if it were a KLR and it never let me down. I also just took it on a 3,500 mile 12 day solo trip throughout the SW and back up the CA and OR coastlines. I can't comment on 2 up as I always ride solo.

The FJR is silky smooth, and definitely superbike class in acceleration and power. The thing hits 100MPH in freakin' 2nd gear! So it is a blast to ride, but is also a pretty comfortable bike for longer days. The max I have done on the FJR is about 550 miles, though I am planning an IBA ride on it early next Spring and have no doubt it will do fine. It does run warm in the summer.

So I give the nod to the Vee for overall versatility and comfort across the spectrum of surface types and riding conditions. But bith are great bikes and it seems to me it would be hard to go wrong. Good luck!

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