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post #11 of 65 Old 06-28-2019, 07:03 AM
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Ohlins are nice but not a necessity. One of my R1200GS's has them the other retains the stock suspension. Granted the Ohlins were not built for my weight (way under sprung) riding style but sill perform nicely. Just not $2,000 or $2,500 more nicely than the stockers. Also I am running pre ESA stock shocks. The ESA shocks are supposed to be very nice being electronically adjustable.

You have a very nice budget to work with and it opens you up access to lots of choices especially if you go gently used. I'd caution you against the pitfalls of buying a new for lack of better term "lower spec" motorcycle because of the low cost of entry then thinking you can make up the deficiencies with farkles. In the end you'll end up spending as much or more than buying higher spec and still maybe lack performance in some areas.
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Yeah thats the same road I went down with my FZ09. bought it for 8k then threw another $4000 at it to transform it into a higher performing bike. stabilizer , suspension , full exhaust etc. I'm looking at Used Multistrada 1200S , GS 1200 GS , or a new Vstrom 1000. I'm not sure which to get but i am worried about the maintenance costs of the euro bikes. They all seem fairly reliable though. I know for a fact the vstrom is bulletproof. The fully adjustable suspension seems nice I just hope its firm enough for my weight (190 pounds) . I just wish it had cruise control! Seems like a great bike
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Yeah thats the same road I went down with my FZ09. bought it for 8k then threw another $4000 at it to transform it into a higher performing bike. stabilizer , suspension , full exhaust etc. I'm looking at Used Multistrada 1200S , GS 1200 GS , or a new Vstrom 1000. I'm not sure which to get but i am worried about the maintenance costs of the euro bikes. They all seem fairly reliable though. I know for a fact the vstrom is bulletproof. The fully adjustable suspension seems nice I just hope its firm enough for my weight (190 pounds) . I just wish it had cruise control! Seems like a great bike
The cost of maintenance of various brands had been discussed many time on here. The general consensus is if you rely on the dealership to do all maintenance it is very expensive no matter the brand. If you rely on your dealer to do only major service the cost between brands is not excessively different. If you do the all you own work and do not rely on the dealer then dealer costs are moot.

Cruise would be nice but I've found that having plenty of extra electrical capacity to run heated grips, jackets, pants, seats, lights etc all at the saem time is far more important as it extendeds my riding to 365 days a year. This is another area the BMW shines as they have a huge automotive style alternator that puts out out enough extra electrical power to run a small city. My DL650 when running low speed through town or sitting idle at a redlight would consume more electric than it put out. Even running at speed with heated grips and a jacket that's about all I could run and still be on the positive side of charging.
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post #15 of 65 Old 06-28-2019, 10:00 AM
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The only way you will know is to ride one, I have a '12 650 and '14 1000 in my garage right now, stop by, we'll go for a ride through the river valleys, over the coastal mountains, to the coast, and trade bikes on the way back.
Seriously , I've let several guys ride my bikes, one guy at work, near my age had a Gold Wing, with a long inclined driveway and sharp turns ending in a gravel parking area. They are comfortable capable awesome bikes, but weigh about as much as a small Honda sedan.. He rode my 650 and loved it. Givi V35 side bags, Givi B47 top box, heated grips, aftermarket seat, and 250 mile range. I do 4,000 mile trips every summer, and for about $10K new with accessories, I've been very happy with it.
As nice as that bike is, having owned an older version of the 1000 Vee, I missed that extra power, so I recently picked up the 2014 1000. It goes beyond the motor, with better brakes, suspension, and more planted stable ride. It also sits a bit taller, which I appreciate, it just seems like more bike all round.
2012 was the year Suzuki did a complete remodel on the 650, ABS, trip computer, gear indicator, new dash, motor refinements, new styling.
2014 Suzuki did the same with the 1000, huge motor refinement, trip computer ABS, TC, new style, etc.
You don't live in Oregon do ya ? , I'm going for a ride later this morning, stopping at the Suzuki dealer in Grants Pass, heading for the coast through the redwoods, riding north on Hwy 101 then home on a 400 mile loop....

They also increased the stator output on the '14 Vee, to 490 watts, leaving about 270 -300 available for accessories.
The DL650 was always a little light on electrical output, I could run heated grips and a vest together, but that was about it. If my wife was along, she got the vest, I bundled up.
You really want to ride both bikes, they are very different, beyond just the extra 350 CC motor size.
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There is no general consensus on cost of ownership.

However, there are 2 factors to consider.

1) Who does routine maintenance, you or the dealer.
2) Which bikes have a well documented history of expensive repairs.

Some of us buy what excites us. Some of us want a drama free experience.

If you want to get a pretty good idea of what costs are involved, go to a site like ADVRider, where all brands are represented. Drill down to the bike specific forums and read up. All your questions will be answered if you put some time in.

To me it is interesting to see which owners have just 1 bike versus multiple bikes. How many miles they log on a bike. How long they keep it.

Cruise is nice, so is electrical capacity. I insist on both of them.

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Ohlins are nice but not a necessity. One of my R1200GS's has them the other retains the stock suspension. Granted the Ohlins were not built for my weight (way under sprung) riding style but sill perform nicely. Just not $2,000 or $2,500 more nicely than the stockers. Also I am running pre ESA stock shocks. The ESA shocks are supposed to be very nice being electronically adjustable.

You have a very nice budget to work with and it opens you up access to lots of choices especially if you go gently used. I'd caution you against the pitfalls of buying a new for lack of better term "lower spec" motorcycle because of the low cost of entry then thinking you can make up the deficiencies with farkles. In the end you'll end up spending as much or more than buying higher spec and still maybe lack performance in some areas.
Ain't that the truth.

I bought my dl650 for touring and have been doing that for 3-4 years and it does that very well, but I don't try to keep up with a group (very BAD idea)
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post #18 of 65 Old 06-28-2019, 02:20 PM
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Just look around at all your options. The Strom is a good bike with excellent aftermarket support, which sets it apart. However, given the price creep and lack of real innovation, or substantive changes that address known deficiencies, I would check out other models from other Mfrs.

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post #19 of 65 Old 06-28-2019, 09:31 PM Thread Starter
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I think I might buy one just because this community is so amazing! You guys are awesome. I wish I did live in Oregon so I could test it out. Ya'll are very kind people. I work on cars for a living and have a lot of tools. I dont mind doing basic stuff like
oil changes , chain maintenance but everything else i would rather give it to a dealer. I always like to buy extended warranties and would feel more comfortable with them doing the valve jobs / plugs for warranty purposes. I definitely can't afford
a new Ducati Multistrada and I'm pretty sure on a used one an extended warranty would be $2000 including wheels and tires. I feel like the vstrom is a solid next step. I started with a Ninja 300 and now a FZ09. I now realize what kind of
bike riding I like to do and that's long distance touring "exploring" our beautiful country. the vstrom seems to get praises from everyone so it's probably a safe bet. I will probably be trading my FZ09 on one because I can only afford one bike. I guess I will
ride the strom for a couple years , pay it off and see where I stand. That way I can really feel what something next I might want out of a bike. At that point I can use the strom to trade in on a more expensive bike. Looking forward to being apart of this forum
and sharing more stories , experiences with you. Keep the replies coming ya'll are fantastic.
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post #20 of 65 Old 06-28-2019, 10:52 PM
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So many of the sportier bikes now have little or no wind protection. I wanted to like the FZ-09, until I saw the FJ-09. I'm considering a Versys 650 to replace my aged 06 WeeStrom. On a trip to the local Kawi dealer, I got weak in the knees when I saw the Versys 1000. Yeeeowza! Great reviews too. But even a used one was too expensive for my budget, dammit!
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