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post #1 of 22 Old 09-21-2018, 03:26 PM Thread Starter
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Acceptable mileage?

One Last Question (probably).
The V Strom 650's that are in my price range...lower prices, have relatively high mileage. To what degree shall I not be concerned about the mileage on a well cared for, "always serviced" bike? Most of the ads are for bikes with between 50k-90k miles. I know these engines last, but even with religious servicing, I assume things wear out. I feel like I need to jump in when I find a clean bike priced "for me". Input and specifics please? Which very expensive (how expensive) items might I be expecting?
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I would be less concerned with engine mileage but age and general wear and tear (or abuse). A commuter with higher mileage may be less of an issue than a bike that has been sitting outside.

If you have a choice the lower the mileage the better.

But if not meticulously maintained, even a 50k bike will need all fluids changed, I mean ALL, including forks and shock. Other higher mileage issues may be bearings (steering head, wheels, swingarm … ) and electrical systems (connectors corroded, switches). A benefit would be if the bike has a headlight relay kit. That removes a lot of load from the system, so less risk of burned connectors/ contacts/ switches.

Best to judge by the previous owner and what maintenance he has done, what issues he had and he had fixed or maybe better fixed himself. I would probably prefer to buy from a private seller that knows what he is doing and is selling not because there is an issue with the bike, just wanting something newer.

EDIT: Make sure the charging system is working properly, ideally if the PO has a V meter installed and knows the charging voltages.
Anything obvious, like age of the chain and sprockets, tires, when was the last valve check done, the last coolant change, the last brake fluid change ... etc
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90,000 miles is still 90,000 closer than new to a theoretical end of life.

That said, my bike has 114,000 and still gets me to work every day. It's my only registered vehicle since 2012 and has never been in a shop. How many miles do you expect to put on it?

Change the oil on time, clean the electrical contacts every so often, ride every day and it will serve you well.
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Maybe I'm a bike snob, I have purchased many new bikes over the decades, that way, I know it's all been me, my maintenance, my riding, my break in, etc. That costs money though, in depreciation, if or when sold.
That being said, I recently bought a Yamaha cruiser, used, with 22,000 miles. I've always thought 50,000 miles to be the cutoff. Where I'd want to sell a bike, and not have buyers balk at mileage, and where I'd like to stay below, if purchasing, just as a number. I don't consider that to be 'scientific' or reasonable, just my gut feeling, and want.
Most times I search, there are low mileage bikes out there, even if I have to travel hundreds of miles, make it a weekend, or longer fly and ride, have a forum member or friend look it over, if possible.
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Not to be rude but if your budget generally allows a 50,000 to 90,000 mile DL650 maybe you shouldn't be looking for a motorcycle at this point.
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Not to be rude but if your budget generally allows a 50,000 to 90,000 mile DL650 maybe you shouldn't be looking for a motorcycle at this point.
To play devil's advocate, that 50,000 mile commuter strom will likely stay reliable. You can pick one up for $2000-$2,500 and it will be cheaper to run than the air-cooled carbureted money pits from '70s that the hipsters are snatching up. And the strom is a better bike in almost every way but looks.
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My 2006 DL650 has 70,000 miles on it, runs like new...I'm thinking about a new M/C, but this thing won't break and just keeps on going. Not one failure, but I do all required maintenance at or before it's required, saying that, it's still one of the least maintenance intensive bikes I've ever owned. As well as the most reliable. OK truth be told the original battery died in 2016....piece of shit.
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Gen 2 is more durable than Gen 1.

Around 60,000k's is ~half of the usable life for gen 1. It will need some work, steering head bearings, fork seals and internal sliders. Suspension bushes checked and lubed.

Gen2 that's around 100,000k's.

That does assume decent condition, regular oil changes etc.

FWIW. What goes on the gen 1 bikes is the valve guides and cam chains/tensioners.
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To play devil's advocate, that 50,000 mile commuter strom will likely stay reliable. You can pick one up for $2000-$2,500 and it will be cheaper to run than the air-cooled carbureted money pits from '70s that the hipsters are snatching up. And the strom is a better bike in almost every way but looks.

I'm not questioning reliability. I questioning the decision to buy a motorcycle when money is so limited. The downstream effect adds in insurance, maintenance, replacing wear items and possibly even buying some gear. I guess that's what credit cards and down the road debut consolidation businesses are for. The American norm of having $10,000 or $20,000 in CC debut start with potentially poor decisions like this.
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I'm not questioning reliability. I questioning the decision to buy a motorcycle when money is so limited. The downstream effect adds in insurance, maintenance, replacing wear items and possibly even buying some gear. I guess that's what credit cards and down the road debut consolidation businesses are for. The American norm of having $10,000 or $20,000 in CC debut start with potentially poor decisions like this.
A $2k Vstrom probably won't lead down the hypothetical path to financial ruin, but we all make our bets. I made mine in 2010 right out of college with a $2k KLR650. Never had to take on debt for it, but as you mention it's important to estimate the total cost of riding and be sure you can foot it before making that leap.

One big upside to buying a bike, you join an uncommonly resourceful community of riders willing to share knowledge and experience. I started with no mechanical skill and in a few years learned enough to do all the maintenance myself. That small investment of time will pay off quite a bit over a lifetime.

To OP, in addition to the bike, gear, insurance, it's wise to have a few hundred bucks set aside for unplanned maintenance.
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