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post #1 of 7 Old 04-17-2018, 07:23 PM Thread Starter
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Buying advise -- 2012, 2014

Hi folks,

Looking at two very low mileage v-strom 650 adventures:
  • 2012 w/ ~3k miles, asking $5.7k
    • Nada is $4.4k/5.8k low/high retail
    • KBB is $3.9k/5.7k trade-in/retail
  • 2014 w/ ~1.5k miles, asking $5.85k
    • Nada is $4.6k/6.1k low/high retail
    • KBB is $4.8k/7k trade-in/retail -- not sure why KBB is so much higher here...
    • pegs lowered, bars raised, parabellum windshield, mirror extenders, fork brace

I'm going to see what the seller of the 2012 will go down to, but I'm not sure what's reasonable since neither NADA or KBB list values for private parites. Is it fair for them to ask for the retail value even if they both have extremely low miles? Because the 2014 has ~$150 worth of upgrades I can maybe see coming in a little under full retail... Am I wrong? Should I be asking for more around the $5.5k for the 2014?

Is there anything else I should be on the lookout for here?

Planning on getting one or the other this Saturday! Appreciate any input -- this will be my first motorcycle buy!
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post #2 of 7 Old 04-17-2018, 09:28 PM
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What part of the country and what is the largest metro area near you? KBB/Nada aren't really all that accurate for motorcycles. Check out CL/cycletrader for bikes in your area (whole state and surrounding) to see what people are asking for similar models. Make sure they have had all the recalls done (cams, emissions and stator recalls, off the top of my head), if not down goes the prices. The upgrades on the 2014 cost more than $150 but they generally don't add much to the value of the bike but can sway a tie as in this case. I'd shoot for the 2014 for the newer model year and the extras, maybe around $4800 if you aren't in California. The 2012 probably has the original tires and tires older than 5 years should be replaced (the tread looks good but they lose grip due to age). If budget is a tight constraint you could use the "old tires" argument to get the 2012 for less, do google search on how to read date codes on tires. Tell the seller its a safety issue (it is) to make him drop his price.

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What part of the country and what is the largest metro area near you? KBB/Nada aren't really all that accurate for motorcycles. Check out CL/cycletrader for bikes in your area (whole state and surrounding) to see what people are asking for similar models. Make sure they have had all the recalls done (cams, emissions and stator recalls, off the top of my head), if not down goes the prices. The upgrades on the 2014 cost more than $150 but they generally don't add much to the value of the bike but can sway a tie as in this case. I'd shoot for the 2014 for the newer model year and the extras, maybe around $4800 if you aren't in California. The 2012 probably has the original tires and tires older than 5 years should be replaced (the tread looks good but they lose grip due to age). If budget is a tight constraint you could use the "old tires" argument to get the 2012 for less, do google search on how to read date codes on tires. Tell the seller its a safety issue (it is) to make him drop his price.
Thanks -- I'm in Missouri near STL. Good info on the tires! Not a whole lot of DL650s for sale around here. Dealer lists a 2017 base model for $6k, but doesn't likely include crate, dealer fees, tax, etc. 2012 with 12k miles and lien title up north for $5k.

Expanded my search a bit: 2012 650 adventure for $4.9k and 3k miles in central IL; 2012 non-adventure for $4.9k and 11k miles in central MO.

Are you saying I should look to buy the 2014 for $4800?? It's the adventure model...
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What part of the country and what is the largest metro area near you? KBB/Nada aren't really all that accurate for motorcycles. Check out CL/cycletrader for bikes in your area (whole state and surrounding) to see what people are asking for similar models. Make sure they have had all the recalls done (cams, emissions and stator recalls, off the top of my head), if not down goes the prices. The upgrades on the 2014 cost more than $150 but they generally don't add much to the value of the bike but can sway a tie as in this case. I'd shoot for the 2014 for the newer model year and the extras, maybe around $4800 if you aren't in California. The 2012 probably has the original tires and tires older than 5 years should be replaced (the tread looks good but they lose grip due to age). If budget is a tight constraint you could use the "old tires" argument to get the 2012 for less, do google search on how to read date codes on tires. Tell the seller its a safety issue (it is) to make him drop his price.
One other question -- both sellers said they've had all of the recalls done and I've ran the VINs to verify no recalls are outstanding. Is that all I need to do? If they didn't do the recall, would it show on a VIN check?
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2 great bikes to choose from. Pick one and don't look back.
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I used this Suzuki Recall site to check my 2014 before purchase. If it says no open recalls you should be okay but get the paperwork from the seller too so you have the records. If the recall occurred before the bike was sold it should have been done by the dealer before sale.

From your expanded search the market in your area is around $5K for a gen2 V-Strom. I don't know if the Adventure model commands higher prices but I suspect not, the features on the Adventure model are more like farkles that don't really add much value on resell. Lower mileage is good but only up to a point, as for example the OEM tires on a 2012 should probably be replaced depending on the date code. Also, sitting without running is probably worse for a bike than a few thousand extra miles. I wouldn't pay much more for a bike with 3000 mile versus 10,000 miles and 3K on a 2012 is an actually negative selling point since its been sitting.

Good luck, let us know how it goes.

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First, don't be in a hurry if you want to buy low! If you are in a hurry seems the 2014 is the better deal.

If you are not in a hurry check e-bay completed listings and see for what they are really going. Low mileage is not an argument. I would buy a 20-30k bike without hesitation. My 2014 V2 had 18k when I bought it (real cheap) for under 6k a year ago. Has over 30k now.

I think both are about 1k too much. If a re-call has not been done go to your local dealer and they will do it, so also not a point other than convenience.
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