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post #1 of 11 Old 05-12-2009, 09:39 AM Thread Starter
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Switching from a c50

Hello all, I've had a Suzuki c50 for a little over a year. It's been a great bike but I've never been able to get very comfortable with the riding position. I started shopping around and narrowed my choices down to a st1300 or a dl1000. If money were no object I would lean toward the st1300 but since it is I'm seriously looking at the vstrom. I'm sure there are others who made the switch from a c50 to a vstrom and I'd really be interested in hearing your thoughts.
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I switched from an M50 to a DL650. The M50 is pretty similar to a C50, so much of my experience probably applies to you.

Key reasons for my switch:

Better comfort, longer range, more power, better handling.

The M was great for around town, but on the highway it got uncomfortable fast, with a lot of pressure on my lower back. The wee puts my feet under me, so I'm much more comfortable on longer trips. The fairing and screen offer better protection than the M did by far.

On the M, I was looking for gas around 130 miles and was in deep trouble by 150 miles. I got about 45 mpg. On the wee I get 50s at 60mph and mid 40s at freeway speeds, but the tank is large enough that I can easily go 200 miles before thinking about gas. My usual stop is now 180 to 220 miles.

Take off on the wee is incredible compared to the M. The bike weighs a lot less and has more power. The V will amplify this even more.

Lastly, handling on the wee is very sporting compared to the M. The combination of the body position and the bike's geometry make the wee feel like a full on sport bike compared to the M. It is much easier to maintain speed through roundabouts and other twisty sections.

So that's all the reasons I like the wee better than the M. The one thing I miss about the M is the ease of riding it around town. The low slung seat and smooth power application was really nice. It also looked a lot nicer than the wee IMO, but the benefits of the wee outweigh the things I liked better about the M.

If I were you I'd think about both bikes and try them out. The ergos on either are significantly different than your C50. Make sure you will be comfortable with it before you buy it.

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Thanks for the insight Basso. Those are the reasons I was looking at switching. Back in the early 90's I rode a Honda Silverwing which had a much more upright riding position and was much more comfortable as I remember. Like you the seating position on the c50 gets very uncomfortable very quickly. At each gas stop (about 140 miles) I was ready to stretch and get off my rear end for a while. Looking forward to a test ride if I can line one up at a dealer or elsewhere.
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On the wee I get 50s at 60mph and mid 40s at freeway speeds, but the tank is large enough that I can easily go 200 miles before thinking about gas. My usual stop is now 180 to 220 miles.
If I were only getting mid 40s on the highway Id be taking my Wee in for warranty work.

51-53 MPG at 5,500-6,000RPM (75-85 Indicated). 240-245 miles per fill at 4.5 to 4.7 gallons, once a week, every week, for almost a year now.

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If I were only getting mid 40s on the highway Id be taking my Wee in for warranty work.

51-53 MPG at 5,500-6,000RPM (75-85 Indicated). 240-245 miles per fill at 4.5 to 4.7 gallons, once a week, every week, for almost a year now.
Massive windscreen + Big Bags hanging off the sides + Fata$$ rider + wide open interstates (IL, WI) + 20 mph winds = crappy mileage at 70-75 mph = 45-47 mpg. Experience from many others is similar.

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When I had a Burgman 650 I found that the larger Windshield alone caused a loss of 5MPG. Bad windshield. Bad, bad windshield.

Tis why I never upgraded to a larger shield on the Wee.

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+1 on pretty much everything Basso says.

I started on a '98 Marauder VZ800 which I still have and the girlfriend rides mostly. While I don't know exactly what changes have been made mechanically since then (carburated to fi?), the concept and the bike's lot in the market are essentially the same as the c50.

My DL650 is-
-Quicker- While that 805cc engine is no slouch, the smooth, sporty feel of the 650 generates a lot of grins. Going with the 1000 will get you not just grins, but raw power, plus that cruiser-like ability to get around without as much shifting as I have to do (but enjoy).

-Lighter/More nimble- My Marauder is pretty sporty for a cruiser, but is still a cruiser. Factor in the stock drag-style bars (which I don't think the c50 comes with) and you've got a setup that requires a little arm wrestling to flick the bike around. The only handling issues I've had with the Strom stem from it's height when making low-speed maneuvers. I've gotten used to this with practice, and there are other advantages to the height that more than make up for this small difficulty.


-More comfortable for longer- You will read a lot of complaints about the stock seats on the Stroms around here, but all I have to say to that is that those folks need to take a couple-hundred-mile trip on a smaller cruiser and get back to me. While I do hope to make the switch to an aftermarket seat when the money makes itself available, I can attest to at least one completely tolerable 350 mile day in the stock saddle with few breaks. On the VZ800, I was very glad that the tank would only get me 120 miles, and was usually stopping at least once between fill-ups. Also, the 800 got a little vibey through the pegs at around 70mph while the DL is muuuuch smoother.

I would love to have an ST, or even the new Connie if money were no issue, but there are benefits to the DL I think. The biggest of these benefits has to be the ease of maintenance on such an exposed bike. I can't imagine that pulling all those fairings every time you want to change oil is very fun. The other thing I love is that I've still got a V-twin engine. I love the low/mid range torque I get versus the high-revving fours in many sport-touring bikes (I'll qualify that statement by saying I am not familiar with Honda's 1300 V-4, but have briefly experienced their 800 V-4 in the form of a VFR.)

Lastly... can you beat having the option to go jaunting down some little fire access road if the whim takes you? I'm not a dirt rider, but just yesterday I was doing a little back-road exploring when I quickly came upon an "end of pavement" sign. I didn't even back off the throttle. What a blast!

In all, you don't hear many Strom owners saying, "Boy, I really wish I had gotten ______ instead of this bike." And there's good reason.

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It looks like I'll be test riding an 06 DL1000 sometime tomorrow at a local dealer. I appreciate all the insight from everyone. I'm really looking forward to the ride and seeing if I can work a deal on the bike.
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Tossing my name in the hat. I switched from a Kawi Nomad (below) to the DL650. The Nomad was beautiful, but such a pig to ride and a pain to keep clean. The Vstrom is a very different bike. Not perfect, but much more rideable, which is (to me) the point of ownership. Good luck with your deal.


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Got done test riding the 06 DL1000. Here's my impressions on the test ride. First of all I rode on the interstate, some twisty backroads, and a little bit around town.
Seating position - Definitely more comfortable than the C50. Seemed a much better position for me. I rode it long enough to really get a feel for it and realized that if I had been riding my C50 as long as I had ridden this bike (at least 1 hour) I would have already been squirming.

Power - Definitely more power there. Had to get used to getting the rpm's up more than the C50. Got up to 80 on the highway entrance ramp before I even knew it and had to keep an eye on the speedometer to make sure I was within limits.

Handling - I was surprised how much smoother it was in the twistys. Felt more like I was part of the bike rather than sitting on a bike if that makes sense. It was quit windy today so I had a chance to see how it rode on the highway, around trucks, etc. I didn't think it was any worse than the C50 in that dept. I'll definitely need to switch over to a full face helmet from the half helmet on this bike.

All in all a great experience. As far as the bike I test rode it had been dropped so the left side was scraped up pretty badly so it's a no go. I'm patient so I'll wait for the one I want to come up, they always do.

I want to thank everyone for all your input. Hope to become a full fledged member of the Stromtrooper family soon! (If anyone you know is in the market for a 2008 C50 let me know.)
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